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Neo Hwarang
3/17/2009 4:04pm,
Hello i'm new to BSD and i was wondering myself this for a long time:

With TKD being the most practiced martial art in the entire world it surprises me that there's no true CHAMPIONS that represent the art in professional competitions like MMA and K-1 even though is the #1 victim of Mcdojangs. Is really this bad? What happened? And I'll still waiting for that "chosen one" to appear like Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida with Karate-do.

cyrijl
3/17/2009 4:18pm,
JUST SO YOU KNOW: MACHIDA DOES NOT ONLY STUDY KARATE. HE STUDIES BJJ, WRESTLING, MUAY THAI AND OTHER SYSTEMS AS WELL.

So if you mean will someone who knows TKD become a successful fighter, then yes. If that person only trains TKD then no.

Neo Hwarang
3/17/2009 4:31pm,
Yes i know he xtrains with other systems but he is proud of his Shotokan when he enters the octagon.

french fri25
3/17/2009 5:24pm,
well its hard to find a fighter whos actually proud of tkd

MacWombat
3/17/2009 5:39pm,
He is also the son of a high ranking master and had been training since three (training bjj since 15). He clearly also has natural athletic ability and is part of one of the best MMA camps out there. Also, I think the likelihood of another Lyoto rising up is diminishing in that people who are serious about MMA are less likely to try a TKD (or shotokan) background than in the past.

It's very unlikely that we will see a TKD version of Lyoto.

Neo Hwarang
3/18/2009 7:59pm,
well its hard to find a fighter whos actually proud of tkd

I wonder why is this since TKD is the most practiced martial art worldwide.

henshinx
3/18/2009 8:04pm,
....I wonder

Deadmeat
3/18/2009 8:20pm,
Somewhere Joe Rogan is smiling.

henshinx
3/18/2009 8:23pm,
wasnt pat smith from the first few ufc's supposed to be tae kwon do? given I dont think he threw a single kick but I mean he was in the sabaki challenge previously so he had a background in something

Neo Hwarang
3/18/2009 8:25pm,
Somewhere Joe Rogan is smiling.

Huh? What does he have to do with this?

G-Off
3/18/2009 8:38pm,
Huh? What does he have to do with this?

He used to train and teach TKD and was some sort of regional champion. During one of Danny Abbadi's fights he proclaimed taekwondo as an "almost useless art."

Neo Hwarang
3/18/2009 8:48pm,
He used to train and teach TKD and was some sort of regional champion. During one of Danny Abbadi's fights he proclaimed taekwondo as an "almost useless art."

Which style did he train in? Do you have any info? Any footage of him trainning or competing? Thanks.

MacWombat
3/18/2009 9:10pm,
I've never seen anything other than this http://realitytv.about.com/od/realitytvjudges/a/JoeRogan.htm

From his wiki...

"Born in Bridgewater, New Jersey, Rogan was raised in Newton, Massachusetts. Rogan earned a black belt in Tae Kwon Do at 15 after just two years of training from the J.H.Kim Tae Kwon Do Institute in Boston, MA. From here he won four state Tae Kwon Do championships. At 19, he won the US Open Tae Kwon Do Championship, and later as a lightweight champion went on to beat both the middle and heavyweight title-holders to obtain the Grand Championship[citation needed]."


From his forum

"The spinning back kick and the wheel kick are 2 techniques that really work, but are rarely seen in competition outside of TKD and the occasional kick boxing match. The spinning back kick is starting to make it's way into MMA, but the wheel kick is next. TKD has a bunch of silly **** in it, but there's a few techniques that are very effective if you know how to use them. The problem is, most of the people that do know how to use them, don't know how to really fight, just TKD fight.
Once the gap is bridged, we're going to see some interesting KO's."

http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=52889&highlight=TKD

henshinx
3/18/2009 9:12pm,
Im sorry but which one is the wheel kick?

Neo Hwarang
3/18/2009 9:34pm,
Rogan earned a black belt in Tae Kwon Do at 15 after just two years of training...

2 years?! What did he practice? WTF or ITF?

henshinx
3/18/2009 9:46pm,
you sound pretty passionate about the subject