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Grimscythe
12/16/2008 8:31am,
Hi All! I've been a lurker for some time...mostly reading the entertaining posts about Ashida Kim.

But, after about a year of screwing around with the idea, I've decided, I want to start in martial arts. I have no MA background, and my only fighting skills lie in street fights, and some EXTREMELY basic Judo & Sambo "knife/gun-removal" techniques. I've been looking at many different MA's and I figure that I would like to go with something that has a good amount of striking and grappling involved (again, I'm a total noob, so please don't flame me for ignorant statements!!!). The ones I think may be a good choice are: Krav Maga, Sambo, Judo, or Karatedo. I've also heard of this one other martial art called SYSTEMA (The System) which is supposed to be a good combination of several different styles. I thought it seemed like bullshit until a friend of mine that's been doing various martial arts since 6 years old started taking it. Also, a quick question: Is MMA a martial art, or is it simply cross-training between multiple styles?

On another note, I've been trying to find some good schools in my area, can anyone recommend some? I live in Bronx, NY but don't care if the school's in New York, NY (I assume that's where the majority will be).

Thanks in advance for all your help!!!
-Grim

OmegaBot
12/16/2008 8:32am,
Welcome to Bullshido, the best Martial Arts forum on the entire Internet, Grimscythe. Seriously, you won't regret your choice to join us. We're a great bunch of folks, except for Hannibal. And Sirc. And TaiGip. And MMA Kid. And... well, you get the point.

PointyShinyBurn
12/16/2008 8:41am,
Is MMA a martial art, or is it simply cross-training between multiple styles?

MMA is, originally, a rule set under which fighters could compete. Most training for it involves training in several style individually as well as specialised 'MMA' training to bring it all together (how to use wrestling take downs against Thai boxing strikes, for example), but some people just train 'MMA' as a single system.

Renzo's (http://www.renzogracie.com/) is one of the top schools in the world, let alone New York. Expensive though.

For Sambo there's http://nycombatsambo.com/, which is run by SamboSteve who posts on here.

A couple of posters on here also train at http://www.roninathletics.com/ and say nice things about it.

Grimscythe
12/16/2008 8:49am,
Thanks for the info.
From what I understand, BJJ is very much about grappling?
How much does striking figure into it?

Thanks!

PointyShinyBurn
12/16/2008 9:02am,
Thanks for the info.
From what I understand, BJJ is very much about grappling?
How much does striking figure into it?
Sport BJJ is just grappling, though the point system in competition is based on attaining dominant positions that you could hit your opponent from. BJJ places that train for MMA will also include striking on the ground when they practice some of the time and cross-train in a standup striking art like Muay Thai or Boxing.

DdlR
12/17/2008 11:57pm,
Hi All! I've been a lurker for some time...mostly reading the entertaining posts about Ashida Kim.

But, after about a year of screwing around with the idea, I've decided, I want to start in martial arts. I have no MA background, and my only fighting skills lie in street fights, and some EXTREMELY basic Judo & Sambo "knife/gun-removal" techniques. I've been looking at many different MA's and I figure that I would like to go with something that has a good amount of striking and grappling involved (again, I'm a total noob, so please don't flame me for ignorant statements!!!). The ones I think may be a good choice are: Krav Maga, Sambo, Judo, or Karatedo. I've also heard of this one other martial art called SYSTEMA (The System) which is supposed to be a good combination of several different styles. I thought it seemed like bullshit until a friend of mine that's been doing various martial arts since 6 years old started taking it.

Of the styles that you listed, I'd recommend:

Krav Maga if you have limited time and want to learn decent self defense

Sambo or Judo if you have more time and are about equally interested in competition and self defense

Karate if you have more time and are mostly interested in learning a cultural artform and maybe improving fitness

Systema if you want to make a serious time commitment and are mostly interested in self defense

MMA if you primarily want to get fit and train for competition, with only a secondary interest in self defense.

Obviously, this is a very rough guide and a huge amount will depend on the particular school(s) you choose.

TheRuss
12/18/2008 1:18am,
Welcome to Bullshido, Grimscythe. How far are you from New York Combat Sambo (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64602)? Our very own sambosteve is an instructor there.

chekoz77
12/18/2008 1:50am,
I would recommend some Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. And then combine that with a good striking art like Muay Thai or Boxing. But it guess it really depends on what you want out of your training.

I also hear good things about Sambo but I have never tried it. In my opinion adding any form of grappling is a plus since most fights (street or cage) usually end up on the ground at some point.

I'm not an expert so just my opinion.