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Rith__
10/27/2008 8:26pm,
Hey, all. I'm a BJJ whitebelt since August. It's the first martial art I've ever taken and I've had a great time with it, but there's this one little problem: my grip is worthless now. I've read that gi-wearing jujitsu can tire your arms out and easily overtrain your grip, but even without doing forearm exercises, I'm unable to train with normal amounts of weight even on things like military press and bench because my forearms just can't take it. My military press dropped from around 90 lbs at 5x5 to 65 lbs at the same amount of reps due to this (yes, I can only shoulder press 90 lbs. I know.)

My question is, will this go away by itself if I just keep doing what I'm doing, or will I have to lay off one of the two activities until my forearms heal up? As of now I'm weight training 2-3 times a week in 30 minute sessions (have to keep overall workout time down because I'm a hardgainer) and doing BJJ for 90 minutes two days a week. I've thought about training grip strength with towel pullups and such, but I don't want to put more stress on those muscles if they're overtrained already. Any ideas?

GhostOfKimura
10/27/2008 8:28pm,
So Rith__, you decided to go ahead and register huh? Cool. Don't forget to review your dojo (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=83).

Kentucky Fried Chokin
10/27/2008 8:44pm,
So wait? Are your wrists overtrained or undertrained? If they're undertrained, BJJ will help, and you use grip trainers, and heavy pulls. If they're overtrained you might want to invest in some wrist straps for your weight lifting to take some of the strain on your grip.

Kintanon
10/27/2008 8:47pm,
Rest is just as important as the work. Take 3 days off and don't do anything upper body and see how they feel when you go back to it.

Rith__
10/27/2008 8:56pm,
So wait? Are your wrists overtrained or undertrained? If they're undertrained, BJJ will help, and you use grip trainers, and heavy pulls. If they're overtrained you might want to invest in some wrist straps for your weight lifting to take some of the strain on your grip.

I assume it's from overtraining because my wrists were fine until I started BJJ. If that's the case, I'd like to know if I should just go ahead and take a break (as Kintanon suggested) or buy the straps and gut it out so I don't lose workout time?

Kentucky Fried Chokin
10/27/2008 8:58pm,
I assume it's from overtraining because my wrists were fine until I started BJJ. If that's the case, I'd like to know if I should just go ahead and take a break (as Kintanon suggested) or buy the straps and gut it out so I don't lose workout time?

Do both. Work on your squats for a while or something, and when they're feeling better, come back and train with wrist straps.

pauli
10/27/2008 9:27pm,
stop squeezing so hard. bjj does not require you to maintain a deathgrip.

Lindz
10/27/2008 9:49pm,
I don't understand how a tired grip would have any impact on your pressing movements. Are your hands so tired that the bar just rolls out of your grip? Kind of like this (gross accident)

YouTube - Nasty benchpress accident - nice spotting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKZNldmhBJk)

Kentucky Fried Chokin
10/27/2008 9:52pm,
You can squeeze out more reps if you grip the bar harder.

syberia
10/27/2008 9:59pm,
stop squeezing so hard. bjj does not require you to maintain a deathgrip.

Ug, i rolled with a guy the other day who did that, he didn't really need to, he was quite a bit heavier than me, but held on for dear life.

Rith__
10/27/2008 10:22pm,
I don't understand how a tired grip would have any impact on your pressing movements.
It affects any motion where I have to move a bar straight up and down. It's not that my grip is getting too weak to hold the bar, it's that I can't squeeze the bar like Razamataz said.

The other problem is that the muscles that should be targeted by military/bench press (delts, pecs) don't feel stressed at all when I do those exercises now -- the only place where I feel a burn is in my forearms, up near the elbow (I.E where the pinch grip muscles are).

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I'll look into the straps/taking a break/not being a raving fucknut during BJJ practice.

Kentucky Fried Chokin
10/27/2008 11:15pm,
Just stop masturbating so much.

Rith__
10/27/2008 11:17pm,
Just stop masturbating so much.

There are some sacrifices I won't make.

Skillful
10/28/2008 7:14am,
go to WebMD and search "Tendonitis." Of course I'm interpreting "just can't take it" as a painful inflammation. This is not uncommon with new BJJers who death grip everything.

Kyduh
10/28/2008 2:30pm,
Just stop masturbating so much.Well now I feel bad, i was just going to suggest he masturbate more.

Dear admins, I was being perfectly serious. I am not trolling newbietown, I honestly feel that constant masturbation improves my grip. Please do not ban me.

KO'd N DOA
10/28/2008 2:51pm,
Rith___ Don't listen to Kyduh, he just is testing the limits of trolling Newbietown.

When grappling in BJJ last winter, my arms killed much the same as you describe. I had the strength before hand, but all of a sudden no strength. At first my Instructor said no big deal, but eventually my arms were hurting so much and not healing that I had to take a few months off.

So I took some months off, lost some weight, and when I went back, I was not nearly as strong, but my grip was enough, and I could stay for the whole class and through the open mats.