View Full Version : Bullshido or not?

6/21/2008 10:32pm,
Is this (http://www.tackarate.com/) a McDojo? It's right down the street from my house and I've been itching to do some martial arts.

6/21/2008 10:33pm,
So Marx, you decided to go ahead and register huh? Cool. Don't forget to review your dojo (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=83).

6/21/2008 10:36pm,
McDojo generally refers to the pricing scheme, of which there doesn't seem to be any information on that website. It's not the same as bullshido, which implies fraudulent claims.

6/21/2008 11:21pm,
Go visit it, try a class and talk to the instructors and see if it feels right.

Omega Supreme
6/21/2008 11:36pm,
I taste a little Mcdojo but you won't really know until you visit.

6/22/2008 12:41am,

This should make you worried.

6/22/2008 12:49am,

This should make you worried.

Not really. My school runs a cardio program to. It doesn't cost any extra to do it and it's a good workout before BJJ. We do cardio stuff and situps, push ups etc, you know the thing and then bag work drills. I mean, it's not the same as a good, hard, MMA or BJJ class but it's fun to do and i'd rather do it there than the complex in town.

6/22/2008 12:53am,
I guess you may be right...

It just reminds of Tae-Bo, which further reminds me of the TKD class I took at Billy Blank's studio (taught by Billy Blanks) and all the bullshit.

6/22/2008 12:57am,
Fair enough, and if they run it at a lot of extra effort and expense then i'd be worried, may as well be at the gym. But it's cheaper than the gym, and i'm going to be there anyway. But the OP school at least seems to call it a fittenss class rather than a MA class.

If they run it to suit there timetable and dont make it ridiculously expensive then its not really a red flag to much, a good way to keep a school afloat.

6/23/2008 8:31am,
It looks mcdojoish normally world champs don't teach at places like that

6/23/2008 3:52pm,
Cardio and Tae Bo and stuff like that shouldn't (IMHO) be a problem, nor should goofy kids programs - the man's gotta pay the bills. As long as the core teaching of the school is good, I don't really care if they also offer Ninja Kidlets classes, or Babes in Bras Kickboxing.

They just shouldn't tell the Babes that they are learning to fight.

6/23/2008 4:38pm,
Let's go over what we know.

- They teach cardio karate classes, which are faddish. Yet, they separate it from the traditional classes, which is good.

- They teach 4-year-olds, which some people (including me) think is too young. Then again, lots of other people teach 4-year-olds and don't think it's too young.

- "Shobayashi originated in Shuri Okinawa as Shuri-Te and is one of the three branches of modern Shorin-Ryu." They know basic history of their style! They keep a list of Dan ranks awarded, have sparring classes 2x a week, separate their adult and kids classes...

- They've been around since 1980. Not necessarily an indicator of quality, but definitely an indicator of serious commitment and success.

- They teach musical forms, which are, I think we can agree, the epitome of unrealistic "martial" arts.

This could go either way. My guess? They teach real karate, and they teach musical forms and cardio karate separately. Devoting time to that crud is not MY ideal, but at least they're separated from their martial training.

But to really know anything, you have to go and try classes and ask questions. I don't see anything about lineage, but I doubt that he's an illegitimate bullshido artist--there is nothing to suggest he's teaching something he doesn't have rank in.