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E-Van
12/05/2007 4:23pm,
I was wondering if this has been touched on before but couldnt find it anywhere. Has anyone ever had to / wanted to break a contract they signed to train at a school? If so how did you do it? What are the legalitys? Did you have trouble with the owner/instructor? Please describe your contract, what went wrong in your training and how you whent about solving it.

Also, any school owners here who have knowledge about the loopholes of getting out of a contract? That would be very helpfull.

Any storys on the subject would be great. Last thing I would want is a collection notice a year from now. Any Kung-fu Lawyers out there?

lionknight
12/05/2007 4:34pm,
If you want help you will need to post the contract here. Their is nothing illegal about that so don't be afraid. Make sure you remove any personal information. From their it will be a lot easier to help you.

E-Van
12/05/2007 4:39pm,
If you want help you will need to post the contract here. Their is nothing illegal about that so don't be afraid. Make sure you remove any personal information. From their it will be a lot easier to help you.

I can do that when I get home from work. But was also wanting to discuss contracts in general for anyone who may also have questions.

Chizilds
12/05/2007 4:46pm,
I'm in the middle of doing it with a pile of ****.... you guessed it.... TKD school right now...

Tomas Drgon
12/05/2007 5:11pm,
In most states there are laws that govern athletic contracts.

I am not a lawyer so pls correct me if I am wrong here. We've been recently looking into(and actually started) contracting people in my club. In MD you can void a contract like that if you:

1. are injured or incapacitated so that you can not train (with doctor's documentation)
2. loose your job (again, documented)
3. move more than 25 miles away from the club (and possibly any associated facility) (documented)
4. sometimes the gym owners add a clause that says that you can void a contract for other reasons that they have personally examined and deemed appropriate, that usually means that they are willing to talk to you and make a deal.

If you do not fall under 1-4, the billing company will be bothering you for a while and then pass the case to a collection agency. If you do not sort it out within certain time frame it will start showing on your credit record and may affect your eligibility to take out loans later.

Tomas

Frank White
12/05/2007 5:13pm,
Go to class with old fish in your pockets, walk up to your instructor, pee your pants, and politely ask if you could be let out of your contract.

A note from a doctor could also help.

E-Van
12/05/2007 5:29pm,
Found this finally. Very interesting.

http://www.bullshido.com/articles/adhesive-provisions-in-long-term-ma-contracts.html

Chizilds
12/05/2007 6:31pm,
MA contracts can be some of the meanest things out there.... I signed mine as an idiot who trusted his instructor..... ALWAYS take care of yourself first....

I am paying 1600$ today to get out of it...

E-Van
12/05/2007 6:32pm,
MA contracts can be some of the meanest things out there.... I signed mine as an idiot who trusted his instructor..... ALWAYS take care of yourself first....

I am paying 1600$ today to get out of it...

Are you serious man? You couldnt find some other way out of it? I was wondering if anyones every tried to get kicked out of there school? That would be fucking hilarious.

Frank White
12/05/2007 6:43pm,
I think it would be easy to get kicked out of a martial arts school (hell, Ive been kicked out of several schools [and one whorehouse]). What if you challenged your instructor to a fight, and if you win, you get to leave. If you cant kick his ass, maybe you could stick around and learn something.

I'm from Sacramento, is it a TKD school?

Chizilds
12/05/2007 6:45pm,
well.....

1. I'm an adult...

2. It's up to you to protect yourself from stuff like this happening, and if you don't like it, DONT SIGN.... I trusted people when I should have known better.

3. If I wanted to learn how to kick ass, it wouldn't be in a TKD school....

Kintanon
12/05/2007 6:46pm,
The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.

cyril
12/05/2007 9:53pm,
The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.

What, where, when? I'm kinda interested to see if anyone has had luck getting out of a contract with anything short of this method. How does one go about getting kicked out of their dojang if it is so bad? Most of the instructors hate me, but the students think I'm decent. Is this a good start on the road to breaking free?

E-Van
12/06/2007 10:41am,
The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.


How many pieces of 'proof' did you need? Did you have to send it to the billing company or to your instructor?

Kintanon
12/06/2007 11:37am,
We had to send a copy of a utility bill showing the new address and it had to be in my name. I had to fax it to the billing company.

The school was Unified TKD near Daytona. It now has an MMA program that has a legit BJJ blue belt teaching, and a good Judo 5th or 6th dan, but the owner is still a useless wanker. He's just very good at getting other people to do the work for him.

whitematt
12/06/2007 12:42pm,
The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't support contracts for MA schools, but I am curious as to whether this constitutes fraud?