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ampol
10/13/2003 2:35am,
Martial arts expert kills two raiders

Philip Willan in Rome
Monday October 13, 2003
The Guardian

A Chinese martial arts expert was in custody yesterday after turning the tables on four burglars armed with knives, killing two of them and seriously wounding a third.
The 28-year-old man, known as "the doctor" for his practice of acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine, managed to seize one of the two knives carried by his assailants and saw off the entire group with the ferocity of his reaction.

Magistrates in the central Italian town of Empoli are now seeking to establish whether his self-defence constituted an excessive use of force.

The butchery, worthy of a Quentin Tarantino film, began shortly before midnight on Friday when the four men knocked at the apartment of a Chinese hairdresser in the centre of Empoli.

The hairdresser, her assistant and "the doctor", who operated from the same premises, were reportedly overpowered and tied up before the group, all thought to be in their 20s and 30s, ransacked the apartment.

Disappointed by their meagre booty, the attackers allegedly threatened to rape the two women unless they told them where the rest of their money was hidden.

At this point the doctor managed to free himself, seize a knife from one of the aggressors and deliver a series of lethal stab wounds.

Investigators found the body of one man, who had been stabbed in the heart, sprawled on the staircase and another man bleeding to death in the street from a wound to his leg. A third man is recovering in hospital from a punctured lung.

The doctor was found crouching in the entrance to the building with cuts to his shoulder, face and hands.

Investigators are trying to determine whether he inflicted the injuries while defending himself inside the apartment, or hunted down the burglars after they had fled.

J-kid
10/13/2003 3:26am,
that dude aka the doctor kicked some ass. He used the right amount of force. I would have killed that third **** as well if i was him.

Mercurius
10/13/2003 5:35am,
How do they know he knew martial arts? If you have a knife, you stab someone with it, it's that simple. All you gwai lo think everyone with jaundice and eyes five degrees off horizontal know how to choreograph movie fight scenes, if they can ever get to the set without being in an accident. Enough with the stereotypes already!

SLJ
10/13/2003 7:18am,
If this is true the fuckers got exactly what they deserved, they were there to commit a crime, and even threatened rape.

I say well done Doc.

MrMcFu
10/13/2003 8:19am,
Sound like kill or be killed to me. Doc did the right thing and ended up alive.

Vapour
10/13/2003 7:50pm,
How do they know he knew martial arts? If you have a knife, you stab someone with it, it's that simple. All you gwai lo think everyone with jaundice and eyes five degrees off horizontal know how to choreograph movie fight scenes, if they can ever get to the set without being in an accident. Enough with the stereotypes already!

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He seized the knife first before getting into knife fight against other three who were armed as well. Plus the psychological pressure of life and death situation. This can't be that easy.

Phrost
10/13/2003 8:28pm,
What's the source of this?

ampol
10/13/2003 11:36pm,
the guardian newspaper online

Vapour
10/14/2003 1:48am,
What's the source of this?




You can pick it up on Fark. I read the article there first, then came to this site to see whether anyone has posted it.

ampol
10/14/2003 1:58am,
anyway, four guys with knives. What are your chances ?
That's a difficult question of course, since you have to take the attacker's ability, the surroundings and your own situation into account. Being tied up sounds like a disadvantage to me. Also- don't think he used much grappling.

SLJ
10/14/2003 3:46am,
Well he didn't "Strike" the knife out of the guy's hand.

pazu
10/14/2003 4:36am,
jeez, nothing gets away from the grappling vs. striking crap, does it? christ, this dude took care of bzness, and whether you're hitting or grappling or both, taking care of bzness is taking care of bzness.

countzero
10/14/2003 4:33pm,
Well he didn't "Strike" the knife out of the guy's hand.

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I guess he must have used BJJ then. Laughable.
More likely than not he used Chin Na techniques, probably cavity press since he is an acupuncturist.

Count Zero

Jenfucius
10/14/2003 5:20pm,
they're lucky he didn't use the "kiss of the dragon" on them!

how can you arrest a guy for defending himself from armed rapist thugs? he's also cut up so it's not like he killed them in cold blood.

Phrost
10/14/2003 5:24pm,
I know of several guardians. I just want to give proper credit to the source before I post it on the front page.

PizDoff
10/14/2003 5:47pm,
Exactly, post the source next time please.


"If this is true the fuckers got exactly what they deserved, they were there to commit a crime, and even threatened rape."
Fucking right.



Stop the grappling vs striking debate now.
Even though you may mean it as a joke, those grappling romos take it personally.

An excellent knife disarm I know is you smash your elbow into his arm, wrist lock and take the knife away.

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