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PPlate
7/17/2007 1:01am,
Last night, I got shown some really secret-funky moves in the clinch by my coach. Heel kick to outer thigh, I've not seen those in fight videos before, and being a little curious, asked him to try it on me. It really hurts!

Which made me curious, what are the best books out there that captures all the best muay thai techniques from various camps from the north, to the south of Thailand?

I'm particularly interested in setting up attack combinations, and also counter drills, and training techniques. Not so interested in the documentation of single technique per se (this is a round kick, this is a downward elbow, etc.), but more of the practical setups and combos that can be used in a fight.

What's termed as "tricks." Either in kicking/punching, or in the clinch. One example of a trick is this:

For someone who likes to grab legs when you round kick them, fake a kick then jump in and right cross them. (Photos follow)

If you haven't encountered such a book before, pls share with me what is the best book you've come across for muay thai. Thanks.

Zyph
7/17/2007 8:24am,
Amazon.com is you friend ;)

I like anything by Delp. He is german, so it reads a bit like an elementry school book. Also I picked one up at B&N called Muay Thai Unleashed that I liked alot. There are a ton of MT books out there, the problem is they mostly cover the same stuff. Once in a blue moon do I see something new.

PhilBaby
7/17/2007 8:35am,
http://www.muathai.com

Has a comprehensive list of tricks online with photos and a bunch of links to books.

Most of the info online is also available in PDF format at http://www.fightvid.co.uk/files/MTBook.pdf (http://www.fightvid.co.uk/files/MTBook.pdf)

PPlate
7/17/2007 10:45am,
http://www.muathai.com

Has a comprehensive list of tricks online with photos and a bunch of links to books.

Most of the info online is also available in PDF format at http://www.fightvid.co.uk/files/MTBook.pdf (http://www.fightvid.co.uk/files/MTBook.pdf)

Thanks for the tips and links guys.

Just a correction, the first website should be www.muaythai.com (http://www.muaythai.com)

Please keep them coming!

Khun Kao
7/18/2007 8:52am,
LOL! My e-book is popping up everywhere on the web! (OK, its not ALL mine, but significant portions of it were written by me....)

Here's an alternate link, as the link above doesn't work for me.

http://khunkao.com/images/MuayThai-ebook.pdf

Also, check out the following websites and order these DVD's....

http://ancientmuay.com/
http://bareknucklemuay.com/
http://buddhaisawanpath.com/

The first two links are to Colonel Amnat Pooksrisuk's "Ancient Bareknuckle Muay" seminar series. He is an authentic MuayBoran master and is one of the 4 authors of the Thai Manual of War.

The 3rd link is a 2 DVD set documentary on Krabi Krabong, which is considered the Father of all Thai martial arts. Students of Krabi Krabong typically are taught MuayBoran (empty handed fighting) first before the introduction of weapons, so the 1st DVD has quite a bit of footage of the bareknuckle fighting methods. However, as stated, this DVD is predominantly a documentary, not an instructional video.

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WhiteShark
7/18/2007 9:36am,
I'm a little hesitant to nutride this book because it was writtien by my old Muay Thai coach and had a couple friends in it but I think its an excellent resource.
http://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Strategies-Muay-Thai-Thailands/dp/1581603584/ref=sr_1_1/103-8745460-2888641?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184768965&sr=8-1

It doesn't have as many "tricks" in it as much as it has tips for when to use tricks on different types of fighters. It goes a lot towards explaining my personal style. Which I found interesting because I had never read the book until I already developed a style. I was coached by the author and in hindsight can see how he directed me described in the book.

PPlate
7/18/2007 10:28am,
Khun Kao, didn't know you were that famous, thanks for putting that resource up!

WhiteShark, that book looks like great stuff, read the reviews and I like it, it's exactly what I'm looking for.

octaviousbp
7/18/2007 10:37am,
I will second Pedro's fighting strategies. When were you with Pedro White Shark?

Khun Kao
7/18/2007 11:02am,
Khun Kao, didn't know you were that famous, thanks for putting that resource up!

I'm not "famous".... yet! I'm still working on that. LOL

WhiteShark
7/18/2007 12:06pm,
I will second Pedro's fighting strategies. When were you with Pedro White Shark?

I trained with him here in Atlanta before he went back to Thailand. The black gentleman on the cover of that book is my next coach, Richard Trammell. Pedro sold his gym to Richard when he left and Richard adapted our program to more Thai style kickboxing and Knockdown karate than pure Muay Thai. He used to tease me about what bad footwork my "Thai March" produced. Richard had a Pro boxing background and used to make me shuffle around the ring after every class to break my marching habit.

buuface
7/19/2007 6:57am,
I trained under Pedro for 2 months last year in Chiangmai hes a really great guy and great teacher. He teaches old boxing now though not contemporary muay thai for the ring. he is devoutly buddest and does about 2 hours of chanting before training every morning hehe :D

jeansberg
7/19/2007 8:07am,
He used to tease me about what bad footwork my "Thai March" produced.
What do you mean by that? What's the 'Thai march'?

PPlate
7/19/2007 8:30am,
What do you mean by that? What's the 'Thai march'?

Probably the muay thai way of moving where you shift your weight from left foot to right foot and back in very small steps. Done to keep your weight central, so you can check kicks that come from either direction.

Does this Pedro still teach muay thai? Where's he located in Thailand, and does he have a website?

WhiteShark
7/19/2007 9:20am,
www.ancientmuaythai.com is Pedro's website, his camp is in Chiangmai. I thought he was still teaching both but buuface just implied he is focused on the old styles only now. Incidentally he gave me the nickname WhiteShark.

buuface
7/19/2007 10:57am,
He does teach basic modern techinques. However I must stress it is not a fighting orientated camp. Pedro only had 2 fighters last time i was there One is a young boy named Kob and the other is a Brittish guy named Jay who wants to become an instructor.

When i was there his lessons consisted of solely technique and footwork drills in the morning and in the afternoon took on a more regular style eg heavy bag drills, some padwork in the ring , partner work and some sparring or running to finish off the lesson. Haha he doesnt allow the use of shinpads when sparring >_<.

My general technique and body mechanics improved a lot while i was there much more than any camp i have trained at but it didnt push me physically as much as others have, although the lessons are quite exausting 6-10am and 3 till 8pm.

Pedro is a great teacher he gives you a lot of attention and guidence. Most other camps just leave you to learn by yourself, which eventually you do but it takes much longer.

Overall id say its a great camp for begginers but once you have learned the basics to a degree you are happy with a more standard camp like Lanna might be better in order for you to improve your speed and strength and prepare for the actual fighting.

Tango M.F.
7/21/2007 9:10pm,
LOL! My e-book is popping up everywhere on the web!

Holy crap that was a good reference! Much respect, Khun Kao.