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WhiteShark
6/07/2007 3:03pm,
I keep seeing videos of guys sparring and a lot of us have a really bad habit of bouncing. I think some of it comes from TKD and some of it comes from wanting to be "light on your feet". The problem is you can be quick and light without bouncing up in the air.

When you bounce your whole body up you lose your connection to the ground. You can't generate power from kicks or strikes in this position and you are very easy to take down. Additionally a lot of people with this problem tend to break the bouncing rythm and settle their weight right before they strike. This creates a really obvious tell and you become easy to predict and counter.

What is the answer? I know that one thing that helped me settle down was stance training and wall mount makiwara work. I'm not going to suggest that because I know most people won't do it. What you should do is tell your sparring partners that its a problem you want to work on. Then ask them to exploit it dramatically. I did this to Kintananon at the last throwdown sweeps and takedowns are a good reminder that you are not rooted. Just have your partner go for low leg kicks and sweeps it is very easy when you bounce a lot.

kwoww
6/07/2007 3:17pm,
It really depends on how you're bouncing. I agree that if you do it a lot and bounce high enough that you actually leave the ground, you're not helping yourself and making yourself look silly in the process, but it can make you faster in some cases. And, yes, it's really really good to do in TKD, and point sparring in general, because in that case speed > power.

From Bell2Bell
6/07/2007 3:24pm,
I've never had this particular problem but I would think shadow boxing would go a long way. If you're concentrating on good footwork and proper form you won't be bouncing. It seems to me the heavy bag would also help, since you won't be able to throw a decent shot if you're of balance from bouncing.

Permalost
6/07/2007 3:28pm,
But...they do it in Street Fighter.

WhiteShark
6/07/2007 3:32pm,
It really depends on how you're bouncing. I agree that if you do it a lot and bounce high enough that you actually leave the ground, you're not helping yourself and making yourself look silly in the process, but it can make you faster in some cases. And, yes, it's really really good to do in TKD, and point sparring in general, because in that case speed > power.

I'm really not talking about playing tag. For the record i don't believe it is ever a good idea. Even if you somehow believe it makes you faster in point sparring it still builds terrible habits for the rest of your martial life.

Neildo
6/07/2007 3:41pm,
http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/ryustance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/kenstance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/akumastance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/sagatreadyL.gif

PointyShinyBurn
6/07/2007 3:47pm,
http://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/ryustance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/kenstance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/akumastance.gifhttp://www.bullshido.net/gallery/data/500/sagatreadyL.gif
Why do they all have massive feet?

Neildo
6/07/2007 3:48pm,
The better to kick your face with, my dear.

Donkey_Fizzle
6/07/2007 3:53pm,
I fought a "bouncer" recently. By the end of the first round I had his timing down and his bouncing around gave me a grand opening for a shot in. He'd come in with a two jabs then a right and bounce out. So I covered up and bobbed and when he bounced out I took my shot. I was going for a single leg but wound up with a good body lock and the ensuing slam bounced his noggin off the floor and the ref stopped it. Maybe it had less to do with bouncing and more to do with him being way too predictable. But I remember his exagerated "float like a butterfly" routine the most.

Donkey_Fizzle
6/07/2007 3:54pm,
Have a trainer stand behind you with a long bamboo switch when you are doing bagwork or sparring. Anytime you start to hop around for no good reason have the coach whip you on the back of your legs. You'll stop bouncing right quick.

DUDE!!! YOU'RE BRUTAL!!!!!!

ysc87
6/07/2007 4:03pm,
you know, when i see people bouncing to the point where they look like they're doing jumping jacks, it kind of angers me. when i spar with tkd rules, i bounce a bit low on the balls of my feet, (sadly enough) like those SF .gifs, but a bit faster. it helps me move around, especially for side-stepping. i think the key is to bounce low and even, not do that "oh,oh,oh,oh, hot lava on the ground, left foot, right foot, left foot..." dance that i see a lot of terrible, white, and overweight students do, else you can't plant your feet for a kick with any power behind it.

also, when you bounce high enough for your opponent to be able to time it really easily, it's a problem. being able to slightly alter how fast you bounce makes a huge difference.

Permalost
6/07/2007 4:12pm,
I don't advocate bouncing, but it seems like people think you can't hit hard with kicks without planting to the floor. When I throw teep style kicks to the body, I sometimes do a small hopping motion forward, and can get good power.

WhiteShark
6/07/2007 4:14pm,
I don't advocate bouncing, but it seems like people think you can't hit hard with kicks without planting to the floor. When I throw teep style kicks to the body, I sometimes do a small hopping motion forward, and can get good power.

When you do a hopping teep your foot is planted at the instant of impact. It was also planted enough for you to lift a leg off the ground and hop forward before you started that motion that's a lot of pushing on the ground.

Neildo
6/07/2007 4:15pm,
I can teep on my toes and it's all the same.

Anyway, i prefer to shuffle like Muhammad Ali. Float like a butterfly, kick like a mule. no wait...

Warasak
6/07/2007 4:22pm,
Im Not a bouncer and i think it is retarted. How can you move or react in your feet are off the ground. the only time i am ok with bouncing is if you have just stepped out after a long combination or a clinch. If you have tim to step way out bounce and circle to catch your breath but you better settle back into your stance quickly.

alex
6/07/2007 4:23pm,
i bounce all the time cos otherwise my chi will explode the floor