PDA

View Full Version : Systema At Throwdowns? WTF is this thread about anyway?



Pages : [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

NaitoTheShinobi
5/05/2007 9:20pm,
Yeah. I laughed when I was making the title for this topic to.

Anyway, being new here at Bullshido, I went on Youtube to see if I could find some funny videos from other users. I did, of course, and came across this little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDnMDJVWmQ#s3FtYQCTLlQ

Under the name "DarthPerilous", I made a cute little comment that I thought was quite humorous. One post later, a user by the name of "StopMoColorado" begins to throw insults here and there and basically nutrides Systema with a passion rivaling Rosie O' Donnell in a gay pride meeting at KFC. He then goes on to claim that two gentlemen, Henry Tsoi and John Elliott, attended a recent Bullshido Throwdown "and OWNED everyone they came up against". Of course, I proceded to ask StopMoColorado for video proof of these events, which he responded by providing the username of one "chinkyLEPRECHAUN".

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=chinkyLEPRECHAUN

I visited Chinky's Youtube video collection to see if I could find any videos that fit StopMoColorado's description. So far, I'm not so sure I have. All I've seen so far is one video of random person who may or may not be an MMA'er, taking on someone named "Demetry Furman" who apparently studies Systema, in a match that may or may not have started at the time of recording.

Anyway, I'm not calling this to your attention to settle any kind of online drama. Rather, I'd like to know if anyone of Systema background was actually capable of "OWNING" anyone else at a Throwdown. I've never been to a Throwdown yet, so I lack the first-hand experience to find out if this is true or not. If it is, let me be the first to kill myself. If a Systemer actually kicked the ass of a Bullshido member, life won't be worth living anymore.

cyrijl
5/05/2007 9:38pm,
wrong forum

DdlR
5/05/2007 9:53pm,
Henry and John both post here and the Toronto throwdown was very thoroughly discussed both in the most recent Systema thread on this forum and also in the Throwdowns forum. I think that the BSD forum members they were sparring with would be among the first to acknowledge that they both acquitted themselves very well, but IIRC Henry (HanktheTank) specifically denied "owning" anyone; the throwdown was just a chance to get together and compare styles, etc.

The video clips you're looking for would be these (Henry/Hank is the guy in the black shirt and red and black shorts, "Jellyman" is the Systema practitioner in the white shirt, black shorts and black wrestling boots)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htSfm_Bpl04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvILRAA5kk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXmVbg9et4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BvjHb-Kx78

There are other clips - just search "Chinkyleprechaun's" clip collection for the names HanktheTank and Jellyman.

Anyway, try a forum search for "Toronto Throwdown" and "Systema" to read about the event from all sides. It sounds like everyone had a good time and that quite a few bridges were built.

Tom Kagan
5/05/2007 10:10pm,
Moved from MABS. Original title:
Systema "OWNED" Everyone at a Recent Throwdown?

NaitoTheShinobi
5/05/2007 10:14pm,
Do all newbs get trashed in their title when their thread gets moved, or am I a guinea pig? :suicide:

It is Fake
5/05/2007 10:18pm,
Read forum rules and you wouldn't have to ask.

MABS is for serious investigations.

YMAS is for making fun of an art or style.

Which one do you think you fell under with this thread.

cyrijl
5/05/2007 10:20pm,
Noobietown is the safe haven for the recently de-helmeted

NaitoTheShinobi
5/05/2007 10:22pm,
Well, I was a wee bit confused when it came to that part. Even though my subject trashes Systema, I believed it fit under an investigation subject more, since it deals with someone who may or may not have made false claims.... concerning a Bullshido event, no less.

Omega Supreme
5/05/2007 10:26pm,
Do all newbs get trashed in their title when their thread gets moved, or am I a guinea pig? :suicide:


No you just get guinea pigs shoved up your ass.


Why are you smiling?


It's not like I'm hitting on you I'm married.

cyrijl
5/05/2007 10:27pm,
Nah. Lurk more read less. False claim from systema regading effectiveness do not need an investigation...just some rolling of the eyes.

kendamu
5/05/2007 10:32pm,
your thread name being changed is nothing new or unique at all.

NaitoTheShinobi
5/05/2007 10:44pm,
Ahh. I see. Next time, I'll focus my attention on an MA that's actually worthy of attention.

Lesson learned. Humble pie baked and eaten.

DdlR
5/05/2007 10:46pm,
Well, I was a wee bit confused when it came to that part. Even though my subject trashes Systema, I believed it fit under an investigation subject more, since it deals with someone who may or may not have made false claims.... concerning a Bullshido event, no less.

It might be worth your while to mention to "StopMoColorado" that Hank himself didn't claim to "own" anyone at the Toronto Throwdown. However, the video evidence pretty much speaks for itself. Both of the Systema practitioners who attended the event did fine, within the rules of their various matches. Hank has suggested that other Systema people in Toronto might also like to attend the next Throwdown in that area.

Have you checked the other threads about the Toronto Throwdown yet?

NaitoTheShinobi
5/05/2007 11:00pm,
Yeah. It seems as though those Systemers actually did pretty well for themselves. So, either Hank and Jellyman are really good fighters, or Systema is a halfway decent MA...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/DrakonisThe10th/Apocalypse.gif

Tom Kagan
5/06/2007 12:09am,
Ahh. I see. Next time, I'll focus my attention on an MA that's actually worthy of attention.

Lesson learned. Humble pie baked and eaten.


I don't think you learned your lesson.

Forget Systema. I moved it because you want to start an investigation on an internet troll based on the fact you can't handle his trolling.

No pie for you!

NaitoTheShinobi
5/06/2007 12:36am,
That's your own opinion Tom, but I respect it since you're a mod and you have the power to boot my ass out faster than a preacher with a hooker on Sunday morning.

I haven't really gotten a clear cut answer out of this whole Systema thing. There are some people calling it complete bullshit, while others are saying it's not completely worthless, and still others (like me) have no idea what the feck to truly make of it! But what I do know is that Jelly and Hank are respectable fighters despite the less-than-stellar reputation their MA has gotten, and whatever those two are studying it must be decent if they can hold their own in a Throwdown. My stance on Systema stands, however, until we see a serious representative get a UFC title... or until I get my ass kicked by a Systemer. Whichever comes first.