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4/29/2007 6:37pm,
So I drive down to terrible little Pendleton, 5 hours each way, to see my fighter fight. The guy he was originally going to fight couldn't make weight, and for a while we thought the match was canceled. The promoter did find a guy 4 days prior, he's the 5th best wrestler in the US. (Placed 5th at nationals) My fighter has been wrestling for about 8 years, he's definitely no slouch, but the game plan we had been training for didn't really apply any more. Anyway, at the start of the fight, his opponent puts his hand out like he wants to touch gloves.

My fighter goes in and is about to touch gloves when the wrestler shoots in, takes control, and the fight gets stopped a couple minutes later. My fighter was fine, he defended himself well, tried a couple of submissions, but he couldn't improve his position and the ref stepped in. Not technically illegal, but definitely unsportsmanlike and it still pisses me off. I'll have video up later.

Some good fights though, a Japanese jiujitsu specialist provided the most exciting fight of the night at 135 lbs. SBGi represented.

I learned two things:

Small towns in the US are fucking scary, I will never go to one again
The audience who attend "Cage Fights" are stupid as hell

JP
4/29/2007 6:47pm,
So I drive down to terrible little Pendleton, 5 hours each way, to see my fighter fight. The guy he was originally going to fight couldn't make weight, and for a while we thought the match was canceled. The promoter did find a guy 4 days prior, he's the 5th best wrestler in the US. (Placed 5th at nationals) My fighter has been wrestling for about 8 years, he's definitely no slouch, but the game plan we had been training for didn't really apply any more. Anyway, at the start of the fight, his opponent puts his hand out like he wants to touch gloves.

My fighter goes in and is about to touch gloves when the wrestler shoots in, takes control, and the fight gets stopped a couple minutes later. My fighter was fine, he defended himself well, tried a couple of submissions, but he couldn't improve his position and the ref stepped in. Not technically illegal, but definitely unsportsmanlike and it still pisses me off. I'll have video up later.

Some good fights though, a Japanese jiujitsu specialist provided the most exciting fight of the night at 135 lbs. SBGi represented.

I learned two things:

Small towns in the US are fucking scary, I will never go to one again
The audience who attend "Cage Fights" are stupid as hell

You hear anybody yell "quit humping him and fight!"? That's my personal favorite.

Anna Kovacs
4/29/2007 7:03pm,
When the bell rings the game is on. It's kind of a jerky thing to do but that's the chops.

"Touch gloves and come out fighting".

Roidie McDouchebag
4/29/2007 7:08pm,
That's smart is what that is.

Anna Kovacs
4/29/2007 7:09pm,
Yeh, it really is if you're concerned more about winning then your rep..

Roidie McDouchebag
4/29/2007 7:14pm,
Rep with...who? The promoter won't care, the fans won't care, the other fighter in particular will probably care. So if you worry what your opponents think of you...

pauli
4/29/2007 7:21pm,
my bjj instructor mentioned a few weeks ago that that EXACT strategy is (or was when he was last there) very common at bjj tournaments in brazil.

and as kat alluded to... refs tend to try and get the glove touching done before the bell for a reason.

SunTzu
4/29/2007 7:34pm,
It's not illegal, but it makes you a dick. I'd say that qualifies as unsportsmanlike.

Ke?poFist
4/29/2007 7:42pm,
Rep with...who? The promoter won't care, the fans won't care, the other fighter in particular will probably care. So if you worry what your opponents think of you...

the fans care

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4/29/2007 7:53pm,
Yeah the fans were booing him after the bell. The annoying thing about that fight/er was that he could control my fighter so well, but he literally couldn't do any damage. Huge weak arm punches/GnP, but unbeatable control. He'll probably destroy a lot of people if he ever learns how to strike.

Also-
While I was cornering my fighter, some douchebag next to me was screaming in his most macho voice "PUNCH THAT ************, PUNCH THAT ************ RIGHT IN THE COCKSUCKER" the whole time. I wanted to blindside him so badly. My favourites were "PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE!" during fights, like they were introducing a novel new strategy, as well as one redneck remarking to another authoritatively "You can't actually get choked out by that" (side choke, seconds before choke-out)

Eldarbong
4/29/2007 8:30pm,
I think even in the old days, when you bowed to your opponent before fighting, you never took your eyes off him, because any hits are fair game, even during the exchange of courtesies.

Yeh, it really is if you're concerned more about winning then your rep..
I agree it is a very underhanded tactic, and I can't imagine respectable trainers advising this as a fight strategy.

Yeah the fans were booing him after the bell. The annoying thing about that fight/er was that he could control my fighter so well, but he literally couldn't do any damage. Huge weak arm punches/GnP, but unbeatable control. He'll probably destroy a lot of people if he ever learns how to strike.
Nothing more boring than LnP....

timjitsu
4/29/2007 9:40pm,
I'd say pretty much what the opponent was probably thinking at the time. that it was a dick move, but he came out with the victory.

Since he was a Collegiate wrestler, I'm sure that he knew what kind of reaction he would have gotten from the crowd, and he probably took into mind that it was a crowd full of hicks who would boo him.

I wouldn't do it, but I completely agree with Anna.

Roidie McDouchebag
4/29/2007 9:49pm,
My old instructor specifically told me not to touch gloves and to hit my opponent if he tried.

timjitsu
4/29/2007 10:02pm,
My old instructor specifically told me not to touch gloves and to hit my opponent if he tried.



"There is no such thing as bad student, only bad teachah" -Mr. Miyagi


It's an asshole strategy any way you look at it.

Don Gwinn
4/29/2007 11:10pm,
Maybe you haven't met Cracky yet. Asshole is what he does; it's who he is.

I'm just another fan, and I've never booed at a show in my life, but I'd boo that guy. I know it's not against the rules, but it's cheap. And yes, if you had any honor at all you'd want to earn the respect of your opponents. Are you playing a sport or are you getting mugged? I don't need respect from my mugger, but my opponent in my sport of choice is not my enemy. He's just another guy who wants to win, and he probably understands me better than the people in the stands anyway (I'm extrapolating from football here.)

Besides, if you don't care what anybody else thinks of you, that still leaves what YOU think of you.

theword
4/29/2007 11:13pm,
(This might've been posted before, I did a search but didn't come up with anything. If it has then I'll save you all the trouble: S34rCh function n00b!)

Along the same lines. One fighter comes out of his corner and holds out his hand like he's going to touch gloves and Angel Torres knocks him out with one punch.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0pM9lnlqThY

However legal it might be, it does leave me with a 'dude, you're a dick' thought directed at Torres.