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Iratebadger
4/06/2010 9:45am,
Trapping works.
Forms are useful.
Ninjutsu works.
I was determined to learn Isshinryu.

Big_Boss
4/07/2010 9:52pm,
A Katana could be used untrained

I wouldn't entirely say that statement's false. Out of all the MAs I've done, Koryu if anything have established the exact opposite of what I thought, IE Katana taking a lifetime to master. End of the day, most soldiers who weren't in a ryuha were just told "take spear/sword, stab other guy to death"

Obviously skill level will make a difference, but I'd call a trained swordsman getting killed by an untrained easier than a pro boxer getting KTFO'd by a guy who just watched Rocky.



As for me,
-Shoryuken is the most damaging attack in all of fighting (this has not been misproven, it will never be! ALL OF YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. Forward, DOWN forward, Forward+Punch
-Boxing is not as good as TMAs (believed this before high school, namely due to kicking/grappling aspects etc)
-Ninjas were real and or ninjutsu existed today
-The death touch existed (**** fight science for making me believe that mess for all of 1 month. I missed the Bas episode with the comparative.
**** guys, its even still CONFIRMED, according to "lolwikipedia"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Science

pokeroo
4/07/2010 10:35pm,
-The death touch existed (**** fight science for making me believe that mess for all of 1 month. I missed the Bas episode with the comparative.
**** guys, its even still CONFIRMED, according to "lolwikipedia"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Science

I saw that on youtube or spike I think before youtube blocked it "in my region [Canada] for copyright reasons." Anyway, what made you change your mind about it? Was it the fact that this particular kind of death has never been confirmed in the history of boxing and other pugilistic sports? Did some specialist in human anatomy refute this claim?

Big_Boss
4/08/2010 1:56am,
I saw that on youtube or spike I think before youtube blocked it "in my region [Canada] for copyright reasons." Anyway, what made you change your mind about it? Was it the fact that this particular kind of death has never been confirmed in the history of boxing and other pugilistic sports? Did some specialist in human anatomy refute this claim?

I was 19 or so when I first saw that (2006?) Given it had a "science" label on it, was amazing how people bought it (still do) and including people I told about it at that time. Heck, I managed to bullshit quite a few people I learned it in that first week (did not even try, I feel like a fucker but it was easy to run with **** to see gulibility in people) I guess thats one of the reasons I had my awakening around that time.

Mind you I had no Bullshido/Internet, boxing gym in a 50 mile radius, mcdojos located in 20, and just a TV. I have a whole book worth of **** to fill one day but not right now, either way I just believe not soon after that I just realized
A)I was ignorant
B)Other people are just as ignorant
And decided to fix that myself via education.

pokeroo
4/08/2010 2:52am,
So I take it with your education you became more skeptical, and decided not to believe in the ninja death punch because it was on a highly controversial entertainment show, and outside of the show there was no evidence? I was thinking in a paradigm of logical reasons for and against, while your answer, which is still legitimate, is framed in terms of who you were then and are now. My question for clarification is to find out if you gained any insight to anatomy, or if not, suppose in your current state of wisdom, you watched the same documentary with all the scientists attesting to it, why would you not believe it now?

MMAMickey
4/08/2010 3:06am,
it says in that wiki article that a one punch ko is only possible with a perfect shot.. um what? I've seen a drunken guy fall through his own fist while projectile vomiting and end up KOing someone.. fight science is laughable

There is an episode where they 'prove' that women hit just as hard as men (I'm not denying it but their method was faulty) ..
it turns out the guy is wearing 16oz gloves, the girl is wearing 10oz, then the guy throws a straight right and the girl throws a fucking haymaker.. :s

Big_Boss
4/08/2010 4:11am,
Pokeroo:
Not to get to long winded, but I wasn't particularly swayed or analyzing any fighting style at that point.
I accepted its practicality at the time just as much as anything I'd see from Wing Chun, Boxing, Kickboxing, Karate, Wrestling,Bruce Lee Documentary, IE this was just some technique of ninjutsu, which I knew little of, with some vague scientific backing, which I knew little of (VC,Striking,Anatomy if you want to throw that out there)
No different than people who saw a katana "break" another sword or running a car with the windows down=more gas vs AC on mythbusters.

See MMAMickey's analogy of the woman vs man's striking, a person without boxing experience isn't going to take notice of glove Oz or whether its a cross/haymaker. In retrospect with knowledge, it's easier to dissect something like that now as you implied.

tao.jonez
4/08/2010 9:11am,
it says in that wiki article that a one punch ko is only possible with a perfect shot.. um what? I've seen a drunken guy fall through his own fist while projectile vomiting and end up KOing someone.. fight science is laughable

There is an episode where they 'prove' that women hit just as hard as men (I'm not denying it but their method was faulty) ..
it turns out the guy is wearing 16oz gloves, the girl is wearing 10oz, then the guy throws a straight right and the girl throws a fucking haymaker.. :s

Obviously the puking KO was a perfect shot. That guy must have studied Drunken Boxing.

I'm definitely entering a fight vs a 165 lb woman now. Wait...what does Cyborg weigh? Nevermind.

MMAMickey
4/08/2010 4:10pm,
Obviously the puking KO was a perfect shot. That guy must have studied Drunken Boxing.

T3h Re4l Drunk3n B0xing

YouTube- Bo' Rai Cho's Fatality #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nN5XHk82Y)

tao.jonez
4/09/2010 9:22am,
Hahahahaha! Especially since borracho (sp?) is Mexi-Spanish for "drunkard".

A flaming fart-based drunken Mexican fatality is definitely street deadly.

Too bad my wife won't let me get a PS3 or Xbox. I'm stuck with a family friendly Wii.

On topic, I used to think that old blind chinese men grew their eyebrows and mustaches out intentionally so they would look awesome while fighting young warriors. Now I know they're just like old white men...old.
http://www.briandroitcour.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/chinese-old-man.jpg

alphascottb
4/10/2010 3:51am,
I use to believe that Dim Mak and Ninjitsu were real and that Japanese swordsmanship was superior to Western Fencing.

excludedmiddle
4/10/2010 4:09am,
and that Japanese swordsmanship was superior to Western Fencing.

That part may be true, who knows. There isn't really a way to test it since they never actually fought and nobody today would be willing to have a sword fight to the death to find out, although the samurai certainly are the most overrated warriors in history, and the one time they did fight any outsiders, they got squashed (Kublai Khan).

pokeroo
4/10/2010 2:01pm,
I use to believe that Dim Mak and Ninjitsu were real and that Japanese swordsmanship was superior to Western Fencing.

Which would you rather fight in, very strong flexible armour that is light, with a razor sharp sword that can cut through most western swords, or no armour and a long piece of wire that you can stab/poke with but can't slash with?

kayman101
4/11/2010 1:30am,
I bought Chris Clugston's Combat JKD tapes and thought they were the ****! There is a move called 'the dive' where you go on your belly and sweep the opponent's legs with the inside of your arm.
One night at a bar, I unfortunately attempted this deadly technique and failed in the worst possible way. The opponent sat there shocked for a moment as I placed myself at the mercy of his right leg, then he kicked me in the chops hard enough to bruise my family tree. It was kind of like when Obi wan kanobi lowered his lightsaber to Darth Vader and met his maker. Moral of this story: The dive sucks ass.

Flail_Crapple
4/11/2010 1:54am,
Which would you rather fight in, very strong flexible armour that is light, with a razor sharp sword that can cut through most western swords, or no armour and a long piece of wire that you can stab/poke with but can't slash with?

Ooh boy, this oughtta be good.

Big_Boss
4/11/2010 6:11am,
Which would you rather fight in, very strong flexible armour that is light, with a razor sharp sword that can cut through most western swords, or no armour and a long piece of wire that you can stab/poke with but can't slash with?

http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/154000/154082_Trollface.jpg