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Flail_Crapple
8/26/2009 4:38pm,
Because the knee is very small and moves a lot? It's also round, which makes it hard to hit it flush. Usually just glances off, I'd say.

I've only ever seen Anderson Silva (I think?) do a good job of it, and even then the knee didn't fold in half like in the movies.

It's not that it isn't effective, but it's not a holy **** knee breaker like people claim, even when it lands completely flush. As a standoff weapon like how Cung Le and A. Silva use it, it works well enough. And hey, you might just get a freak knee break some of the time, but a regular old roundhouse is more likely to damage the knee from what I've seen.

Exhibit A:
(That's jardine's bum knee and he still finished the 1.5 rounds left in the fight)
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/thatrugbyguy1/2dran2o.gif

TheWanderingTaoist
8/26/2009 4:40pm,
Probably because the kid with the fucked knee was standing in a crouched position at a base, focusing on the ball, while the other kid was diving feet first at the base.

A) It's easy to blindside someone when they're guarding a base.
B) You'd be hard pressed to attempt a double-legged drop kick at someone's knee in a fight, and not have them see it coming a mile away.

Double-legged drop kick? In Hapkido the instructors always told us that just a half way decent sidekick to side of knee was enough to disable an attacker.

Flail_Crapple
8/26/2009 4:49pm,
Double-legged drop kick? In Hapkido the instructors always told us that just a half way decent sidekick to side of knee was enough to disable an attacker.

I suspect that Jardine, Frank Shamrock, and Thales Leites might have differing opinions.

Heinrich17
8/26/2009 6:23pm,
Holy crap!!! That shot in the knee was hard to watch! Thanks for explaining though. I get what was meant now. It probably came from Blood Sport when Chong Li or whatever broke that one guys knee in the fight.

marcusdbrutus
8/27/2009 11:22pm,
Double-legged drop kick? In Hapkido the instructors always told us that just a half way decent sidekick to side of knee was enough to disable an attacker.

I am implying that the only reason your baseball dude's knee got wrecked is because the other guy was flying at it with all his weight behind his feet.

TheWanderingTaoist
8/28/2009 2:52am,
That makes sense. I believe he said the guy slide right into his knee purposely with his weight then laughed his head off when the guy went down. He pointed to that as the reason for his $60,000 knee replacement.

73h r341 h3x
9/04/2009 9:12pm,
i used to believe all the stuff mentioned on this thread. i also used to believe that a krotty spearhand could pierce through a samurai's armour and through their heart. i asked my sensei if it was true, he said no, but i secretly still believed it... im ashamed of myself.

when i started bujinkan i used to believe that boxing, judo and all sport ma's were weak and not t3h r34l str337... i believed that sparring was too dangerous as the b00j was t00 d34dly.

at least until i met a dude there who was brought up in el salvadore, ex bouncer, been in heaps of competitions and done basically every martial art i can think of, and he completely shattered my illusions about myself and martial arts. i remember trying to think of strategies to defeat him for our bare knuckle sessions- but every time i'd get my arse handed to me. thankfully my days of LARPING are over- at least i hope so!

Purpleskunk
9/05/2009 9:22pm,
After I saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon I was talking about how good it was with a work colleague who was Chinese. I inadvertently made the racist statement, "And they believe they can really do that flying and ****", he cocked his head to the side and said, "they?" like I had just insulted his heritage, shat on his father and had sex with his mother. I had meant martial artists of the LARPing kind, so I said, a tad too weakly as the realisation of what it sounded like dawned on me, "you know, martial artists" (LARPing was not in my vernacular at that stage). He seemed appeased, which is good because all Chinese are Kung Fu masters.

so basically by "they" you still meant the chinese, because all chinese are kung fu masters, being that "you know, martial artists" would include kung fu masters.

Wrestling Dude
9/06/2009 11:22pm,
I used to think a blackbelt ALWAYS and in EVERY dojo/school meant someone could beat me. Then I got decent at sparring.......and found my school wasn't really producing good students.

SpamN'Cheese
9/12/2009 1:07am,
I used to think I could shoot a Hadouken from my hands.

I used to think that a flashy martial artist could take down anyone.

I used to think that anyone trained in ninjutsu could pwn the **** out of everyone before they even knew it.

I used to think that martial arts was all about breaking bricks and ****.

I used to think Sho Kosugi was legit.

I used to think that all gung fu masters can fly through the air.

I used to think that a black belt can beat anyone to a pulp.

I used to believe pretty much every dumb ass myth about martial arts ever made.

Best of all? I stopped believing this **** once I got into martial arts.

marcusdbrutus
9/12/2009 1:11am,
I wrestled/boxed in high school. There was a skinny krotty kid I went to school with, who enjoyed talking up and showing off his 'skills' at school. Threw high kicks really close to people's faces out of nowhere, sometimes did little parts of forms in the hallway. Insufferable dickhead, really.

I, along with most of the wrestling team, truly believed he could kick my ass.

(Until he got cold clocked for said dickish behavior. Then I just felt silly.)

JKDChick
9/12/2009 2:37am,
That it was properly about anything other than learning the most effective method of causing harm to another person.

73h r341 h3x
9/12/2009 7:47am,
I wrestled/boxed in high school. There was a skinny krotty kid I went to school with, who enjoyed talking up and showing off his 'skills' at school. Threw high kicks really close to people's faces out of nowhere, sometimes did little parts of forms in the hallway. Insufferable dickhead, really.

I, along with most of the wrestling team, truly believed he could kick my ass.

(Until he got cold clocked for said dickish behavior. Then I just felt silly.)

ROFL i used to be EXACTLY like that krotty kid, i even did forms n **** in the hallway... till i got my nose broken by a boxer

lmark09
9/12/2009 7:01pm,
i used to believe that the student instruction job my karate instructers offered me to give was because i was realy good. then i realized the just wanted me to stay at the school so they could take more money from me. so i quit

lmark09
9/12/2009 7:07pm,
also i thought any martial art that had sparring was effective

Neo Sigma
9/12/2009 7:45pm,
I used to think that being able to stop my TKD kicks an inch away from a person meant I'd really be able to beat some ass in a fight. I mean, it's only an inch, right? Of course I can just kick all the way through for real, why wouldn't I be able to? Thankfully, this stupid belief was never put to the sure-to-be-embarrassing test, since I had the previously mentioned karate mystique on my side. I also tried not to publicize it too much and mostly wanted to be left alone, which probably helped.

Also, I used to think that sparring was way overrated. Just because you beat the crap out of each other on a regular basis doesn't mean you know anything about fighting! I mean, you get hurt, and then you can't train, and then you can't learn more, so obviously sparring is crap.

*groan* I actually found some old tapes my parents had of some of my TKD tournaments. I can't believe I really thought I was being taught how to fight.

I don't generally talk about my training much with people other than my fiancee, other than grumping about my bloody nose, or my busted up legs, or my puke-inducing liver. But for some reason, my friends seem to think this makes me a badass and constantly go on about how they wouldn't mess with me. Anybody else get kind of aggravated by that?