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Hedgehogey
7/31/2003 12:55am,
Ok, a recent message just said "try that double leg takedown in THE STREET and you will get maimed by the dudes friends".

OK genius. I'd like to see your style take on a gang of dudes. The reality is GRAPPLING OR NO GRAPPLING, IF FRIENDS JOIN IN YOU ARE FUCKED. You know where i'm from? SOUTHEAST FUCKING WASHINGTON DC. The murder capitol of the nation. You know what happens when you get jumped? You either run or get your ass beat. (i'm not saying this to hype myself up, i'm no kinda "king of the streets" nor do I head up a crew).

"The street" is not some magical fucking place where the normal laws of physics do not apply.

People keep saying things like "sure you can beat me with it here but I wouldn't do that in *the street*." Well of course you wouldn't BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, because you CAN'T EVEN PULL IT OFF AGAINST A 50% RESISTING PARTNER.

The reality of fighting is IF YOU DON'T REGULARLY FIGHT, YOU CAN'T FIGHT. PERIOD.

GARGH!

Omega Supreme
7/31/2003 1:13am,
I know you have a point to make. Go for it.

Official WTDude Badass Evil Genius

Darting Fingers
7/31/2003 1:14am,
Punking out is definetly better than getting punched out .

Middlemoor
7/31/2003 1:16am,
Just as long as you give nobody a free hit, that's fine.

Goojeanleans
7/31/2003 1:17am,
Another fag who thinks he's tough **** because he lives in a shitty place. There's pussies in ghettos too, and you probably are one. I bet you take the metro to the DC Mall and hang out in a cyber cafe with all your gay friends.

Pandinha
7/31/2003 1:56am,
Fucking newbs talking **** again.

There should be a rules where you can't start a thread until you have 200 posts.



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Hedgehogey
7/31/2003 2:02am,
Like I said, I never claimed to be a badass. I'm not part of a crew, i'm not feared or renowned. I only mentioned it because it's relevant to the whole multiple attackers thing.

SLJ
7/31/2003 2:58am,
>There should be a rules where you can't start a thread until you have 200 posts.


Why ? What he said was true.

Mr Hedgehog, the "multiple attackers" excuse has become the #1 lame ass cop out ever. You are right to be annoyed.

It's like saying a break fall is useless because it doesn't save you from 900 ft drop.



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Stold3
7/31/2003 3:08am,
I think the point is that you are in a better position to strike and retreat while standing, as you aren't dedicated to any one opponent and are free to run at almost any time.

Hiji kime
7/31/2003 3:16am,
So? that was news?

it's better to avoid a fight involving more than one person?

wow, that's profound LOL

Thank you for enlightening me and waking from my delusions of martial prowess LOL

SLJ
7/31/2003 3:25am,
You're 100% correct Hiji, but please tell that to the morons who keep churning it out as an excuse.

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BlackBeltNow
7/31/2003 3:30am,
"IF FRIENDS JOIN IN YOU ARE FUCKED."

not if you know kungfu<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> then the bad guys will explode

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Stold3
7/31/2003 3:35am,
An excuse eh? Hm, I hope the people that train standup for self defense out there aren't planning to take on 5 guys at once...Nobody is that dillusional, right?

Southpaw
7/31/2003 7:39am,
Ok, a recent message just said "try that double leg takedown in THE STREET and you will get maimed by the dudes friends".

OK genius. I'd like to see your style take on a gang of dudes. The reality is GRAPPLING OR NO GRAPPLING, IF FRIENDS JOIN IN YOU ARE FUCKED. You know where i'm from? SOUTHEAST FUCKING WASHINGTON DC. The murder capitol of the nation. You know what happens when you get jumped? You either run or get your ass beat.


You're a fucking moron. Congrats...you live in Washington D.C...along with 4 million other people. I lived in D.C. for 4 years, what's your fucking point?

The whole point of the discussion was not to tell people to go out and start fights with multiple people...the point was to try and show that a double leg takedown leaves you on the ground. On the ground is not a good place to be...why?...because it's harder to run away and it's harder to get into a good position if there is more than one of them.

Have none of you homos ever fought somebody? Have none of you ever fought somebody when there were people around? Have you never seen somebody who was watching a fight, decide to kick one of the guys on the ground? I've seen it. I've been kicked. You never know what's gonna happen...that's the point. I'd rather try to deal with the unpredictable on my feet, as opposed to on the ground...

That's the simple point I was trying to make. Now go back to your really dangerous neighborhood, and practice your double leg takedowns.

Incidentally, I have nothing against double leg takedowns...their great to take someone to the ground with...I just don't think that on the ground is the best place to be when your fighting outside the ring.

Fisting Kittens
7/31/2003 7:54am,
Since when does a double leg have to leave you on the ground?

I don't know about you guys but I can double leg and keep my feet pretty easily.

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I have discovered the true essence of Bullshido: To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentation of their women.
In short: to flame.

SLJ
7/31/2003 7:55am,
Why does everyone make the assumption that it's always YOU who takes it to the ground ?

Even an untrained person can have hold of you and force you to grapple very quickly.

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