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King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:00pm,
Here's a short thread on the possible effectiveness of certain staple TKD kicks.

The tappy snappy roundhouse: What could it be used for? A quick jabbing roundhouse that can be used to close the gap really quick for getting your punches in and confusing your opponent as to why you just tagged him with such a slappy kick.

The spinning back kick: My favorite kick. Very effective if you can use it correctly. Also, since this is rarely practiced outside of TKD, it'll be one of those things that your opponent doesn't see coming. Can be combo'd with a spinning back fist and right into a cross so not to get caught off-guard should you miss. Should not be used without leading in with something.

The Spinning heel kick: In a kickboxing situation, the SHK can be used very effectively to counter roundhouses. Usually practitioners will fall after throwing them because they try to throw them with a jump as the roundhouse comes in. This usually ends up as a single attack that they throw to restart the fight. Otherwise this can be used effectively if said user opens them up with a combination.

Side-kick: Same with the SBK, not very many people use this, but can be used to catch your opponent off-guard. Also can be used as a great leg attack (ask the sanda guys). Comparable to the push-kick in some manners, especially if you find your opponent trying to flank you.

The flying kicks: Unless your opponent is punch drunk, retarded, over the age of 68 or just not facing you, flying kicks won't do you very much. I don't recommend them unless you're EXTREMELY quick.

Have a good day.

*flamesuit on*

Edit:

I forgot about the axekick: So the axekick is really only effective if you know how to use it. It needs to arch forward and not just go straight up and down. Watch any Andy Hug fight and you'll see what I mean when he uses his axe kick, he moves forward a little and his leg forces his bodyweight forward in an attempt to stomp on someone's face. A good counter and unexpectedness type of thing.

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:09pm,
I'd like to see you try any of that bullshit against someone who knows what they're doing.

Epicurus
12/08/2006 8:10pm,
Man, you're going to get SO flamed. If you han't started with the tappy roundhouse this thread might have been taken seriously. Oh well!

I have two good friends whose first style was TKD. One now does Kickboxing and the other just practices his TKD a lot. Both of them were blessed with a "T3h R34L" TKD school, so they love to spar (full contact, Kickboxing rules) and keep fit. From fighting them I've gained some insight into what's useful from (non-shitty) TKD as well;

Sidekick: Used like other styles use a push kick, to catch someone trying to close and offset the advantage of a taller fighter trying to close in order to punch them (i.e. me). Can be very powerful and non-telegraphic.

Spinning Back Sidekick: Don't see this one a whole lot, but every now and then it is used if I overcommit while trying to close in for punches, or if I slide in with my usual front kick or push kick (they spin to one side of my leg and kick me, yes I'm that slow).

Also while sparring with my Ex, who is ITF TKD, she has been able to catch me on a few occasions with a jab-spinning backfist combo, although once I knew to watch for it it stopped happening very often.

Also, my Ex uses a sidekick to the thigh to discourage me from closing to punching range; I don't know if this is a good idea or not, because she doesn't ever spar anything close to FC.

King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:11pm,
I'd like to see you try any of that bullshit against someone who knows what they're doing.

Oh geez. Not this again. Can't you say anything less generic?

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:12pm,
**** that, you aren't sliming your way out of it this time. Those techniques fucking suck, there's been way too much 'leave TKD alone' bullshit around here lately.

King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:15pm,
**** that, you aren't sliming your way out of it this time. Those techniques fucking suck, there's been way too much 'leave TKD alone' bullshit around here lately.

Oh blah blah blah. I've made some of these techniques work well against other kickboxers and it works perfectly fine because they have no idea how to defend against things they rarely ever encounter. You're just an uncoordinated white guy. Go back to grappling.

Epicurus
12/08/2006 8:16pm,
**** that, you aren't sliming your way out of it this time. Those techniques fucking suck, there's been way too much 'leave TKD alone' bullshit around here lately.
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http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47696

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P.S: I think all the techniques Sirc lists except the sidekick and SBK are so low-percentage as to boggle the mind, but that doesn't mean it's not worth shooting them down with specific arguments. Against almost all those moves: Sirc, show me someone besides Andy Hug making them work in a real competition.

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:18pm,
You fucking bitch, I fucking DARE you to try that garbage in MMA, **** your patty-cake kickboxing matches.

King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:21pm,
You fucking bitch, I fucking DARE you to try that garbage in MMA, **** your patty-cake kickboxing matches.

Yes, yes, run back to your MMA cave, neanderthal. I better tell all those boxers that they shouldn't fight at all because boxing wouldn't cut it in MMA.

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:28pm,
The difference being...boxing isn't MOTHERFUCKING BULLSHIT.

Axelton
12/08/2006 8:31pm,
Oh blah blah blah. I've made some of these techniques work well against other kickboxers and it works perfectly fine because they have no idea how to defend against things they rarely ever encounter. You're just an uncoordinated white guy. Go back to grappling.

okay average asian....

King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:32pm,
The difference being...boxing isn't MOTHERFUCKING BULLSHIT.

Oh WOW! What great qualification of an argument, ******. Here how about you address the fact that I've made it work in a kickboxing setting and given the recent grappling training I've received, I BET YOU that I could make it work in an MMA setting.

Epicurus
12/08/2006 8:33pm,
Cracky, did one of your parents get raped or mauled by a TKDer in your formative years?

Anyway, IMO Tae Kwon Do is a horrible choice for standup MMA. You can, however, borrow moves from it in rare cases. GSP's back kick, f'rinstance. Yes I know you can count the people who use even a few TKD moves successfully in MMA on one hand. Eat a cock.

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:34pm,
Polesmoker, please, that bullshit would NOT work against ME in MMA, not now, not fucking EVER.

King Sleepless
12/08/2006 8:39pm,
Polesmoker, please, that bullshit would NOT work against ME in MMA, not now, not fucking EVER.

Christ! The only bullshit is what's coming out of your mouth! I said already that i made it work! and with my grappling defense I BET YOU I could make it work AGAINST YOU. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO DISPROVE THIS?! NOTHING! N. O. T. H. I. N. G!

Roidie McDouchebag
12/08/2006 8:41pm,
Oh no, you didn't. You piece of ****. You think I've done nothing to prove it? You think that crap would work against me? Put your money where your mouth is, bitch. You want to make retarded claims, back them the **** up.