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Mjelva
3/01/2006 7:19pm,
I really like learning, or figuring out, little details that make subs more effective.
For instance, as someone mentioned in this thread (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31964), pulling your foot back to flex your calf in order to strengthen a triangle.
I figure you guys have a lot of neat stuff to share, that I could learn from, so come on and educate me, plz.

Everything from noob basics to the truly innovative. Share your secrets!

NSLightsOut
3/01/2006 7:28pm,
Whilst the lack of specificity irritates me, (do you even know just how broad what you've asked is?) I'll bite.

Arm-inside guillotine w/monkey grip:

When going for this choke, drag your hands across the neck/shoulders until your hands are under the inside arm's armpit for maximum tightness. If the arm is properly across the neck, the guy will tap without too much effort on your part.

UpaLumpa
3/01/2006 7:38pm,
The toe advice goes for both feet and for almost every sub.

Mjelva
3/01/2006 8:03pm,
Whilst the lack of specificity irritates me, (do you even know just how broad what you've asked is?)

Yes. It's amazingly broad. However, wouldn't it be cool if we turned this into some sort of ninja trick encyclopedia?


The toe advice goes for both feet and for almost every sub.
Flexing your calf, you mean? Care to elaborate?

Probably nothing new to anyone, but flexing my (huge) bicep, and clenching my fist does good things for an RNC.

Kengou
3/01/2006 8:17pm,
I've tapped people just by gripping their shoulder gi cloth in preperation for an RNC, and then squeezing my bicep. I can't recommend that as a sub by itself since it's obviously much weaker than a real RNC, but it's a good detail to keep that pressure on I guess.

UpaLumpa
3/01/2006 8:25pm,
stuffArmbars too.

Mjelva
3/01/2006 8:42pm,
Armbars too.

Flexing my calf helps with armbars? How?

saku39
3/01/2006 9:10pm,
on armbar from the guard:

when you throw your leg over, instead of crossing your feet, close you legs (squeze your hamstrings). The one at the head neck also turns a bit(knee goes towards other leg). The lower leg is as high under their unattacked arm as possible, and of course you are closing your leg. This makes the armbar much tighter; moreover, because your legs are bent, you can better utilize your ass muscles in pulling the person down. Another benefit, if they start to lift you are stuck onto them so they aren't losening the pressure on their arm any, and they have to lift all your weight. *make sure your hips and side are completely off the ground, if they ain't then you are not squezing properly/enough*

fanatical
3/01/2006 10:28pm,
Is this a Taido Armbar?

Yrkoon9
3/01/2006 11:31pm,
When throttling someone it is best to have your thumbs on their trachea.

saku39
3/01/2006 11:33pm,
Is this a Taido Armbar?

US Taido =/= All other taido

But, yes. This is the way we do it in the US.

GoldenJonas
3/24/2006 3:56pm,
Well here is something that unfortunatley took my stupid ass too long to figure out re: entry to the triangle from the guard.

Here's basic basic.......probably should start its own thread "how do triangled"

The first key to applying the triangle from the guard is getting one of your legs out and around the uke's arm up to the side of his neck. Me being 6'3" and having freakishly long legs made this move a HUGE pain in the ars. Just recently I put 2 and 2 together and started pushing the uke's arm inside between my legs to set up the triangle. This does two things 1) dekes the uke into thinking "hey I can stack much easier now!!", and 2) the transition is much much quicker with no danger of getting my size 14 feet stuck in the folds of the guys gi if training with a gi.

Edit: failing to push the arm through completeley or having the guy defend may set up a nice bicep slicer if the the triangle is caught and defended.

Kengou
3/24/2006 7:51pm,
That was the first triangle setup I learned actually. We do it with a collar grip so that the other guy can't get away when you open your legs, push his arm through, and close them.