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Blad3
4/29/2003 5:48pm,
First of all: 1)What is everyones' training schedule and how many times a week do you train?

2) How much do you pay per month?

I'm trying to work out a timetable where I'll be able to train every day; for a short while I thought this was the optimal solution:

This BJJ place was 50 ($80) a month to train every day, then I'd just train Submission Fighting once a week for 10 ($16) inc. train fair. About 90 ($143.50) a month to train everyday, not bad at all, at least not for London.

However the BJJ place is under new management and it now costs 10 ($16) per lesson, no monthly fees and there are only 3 classes a week. The good thing is, is that the teacher is excellent - a blackbelt "something" dan - the class was really enjoyable too.

Does anyone think that this pricing is really fair (bearing in that the teacher is excellent)?

I don't, and it would mean I can only train twice a week (once in BJJ, once in MMA) and at home every other day if I do it this way. Also, there would be no way i could train extra classes in takedowns and striking.

Would it be worth just training from home (like I already do - Training at home as in conditioning, not training MA at home! .) and ONLY going twice a week (which I don't really want to do)?

Who else trains very little in class and has to train more at home?



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Edited by - Blade Windu on April 29 2003 17:56:32

Omega Supreme
4/29/2003 5:50pm,
I train every day
I pay less than you
Pricing is never fair
Training at home sucks
BJJ sucks.



Go away I'm talking to myself

Blad3
4/29/2003 5:57pm,
"Training at home as in conditioning, not training MA." I added that.

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FingerorMoon?
4/29/2003 7:00pm,
Blade - I guess it depends on what exactly makes up the classes you attend.

If the 2 classes a week you plan on attending focus purely on martial arts training/technique then that can be fine.

You can then practise on your own, as well as do weight training and cardio training on other days.

If you've got the spare time, and the money go to as many as you want!

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Blad3
4/29/2003 7:26pm,
that's just it - at that price i'll only be able to afford to go twice a week.

They focus on techniques and sparring yes...but going everyday to the same thing @ the same price is worth it, but only being able to go 1/3 as many times @ the same price?

Yeah I will train cardio and start on weights.

What's your schedule and how much do you pay FM??

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Deadpan Scientist
4/29/2003 7:32pm,
Blade: do you go twice a week now? <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

I pay $36,000 a year for 2 2hour aikido classes and 2 2hour KFSS classes a week. I can also attend some "theory" lectures....

NSLightsOut
4/29/2003 8:00pm,
FingerorMoon, the problem w/training BJJ on your own is that you can't do it very well. I've lost count of the amount of time I've spent thinking how to execute technique, then when I get on the mat with a resisting opponent, all of it goes out the window. It's a unique problem to grappling that you can't train solo and get anything out of it, apart from doing weights/cardio work, which isn't technically BJJ training.

Hence, if your body can take the punishment, the more training, the better. I trained nearly every day over January - early March, with a couple of breaks when I got worn out, and it made a huge difference to my game. I bulked up from 79kg to 85, walked for an hour to and from training as a warm up/down, cardio got far better, stamina, etc.

In short, Blade is better off going to the daily classes IF it is of a decent standard. Else, the alternative should be taken into serious consideration.

N8y5000
4/29/2003 8:07pm,
36,000....Does it come with a house? I don't mean to be offensive, but that's just someone taking your money. If you have that to give, good for you, but that's $750 a week, which almost no one even pays for a month. That better be some damn good instruction. Jesus Christ....I pay about $2,300 a YEAR!

(Judo)-----$50/month Unlimited classes
(ICS)------$75/month Unlimited classes
ICS Covers: JKD, Karate, BJJ, Muay Thai, Silat, Kali, and some Kempo.
(TKD)------I'm on contract right now that was paid about two years ago, about $50/month but I am already paid off.

$36,000 IMO is way too much. $3,600 would be different.

Omega Supreme
4/29/2003 8:09pm,
$36,000 year, I think he means he takes it in college.

Go away I'm talking to myself

FingerorMoon?
4/29/2003 8:13pm,
What's your schedule and how much do you pay FM??

I'm baffled by the amount people in the UK and US pay.
In Australia, I pay $650 a year. An Aus dollar translates to roughly 30c+ in UK and 70C- in US so I pay far less than most here seem to.
They do charge for gradings though so they make a bit more there.

The important thing is to just get started. If you can only afford to do 2 classes per week then do that. At beginner-intermediate level (which I believe you are - apologies If I'm wrong....) you will learn a truckload with 2 classes per week. Just get off your butt and start! :)

Personally, I do 4 classes a week at the center.
But we do cardio, conditioning, weights as part of class as well as actual MMA training/sparring - hence the reason I said 2 days a week of pure MA instruction could probably suffice.

I also do conditioning/weights on my own.



NSLightsOut:
FingerorMoon, the problem w/training BJJ on your own is that you can't do it very well. I've lost count of the amount of time I've spent thinking how to execute technique, then when I get on the mat with a resisting opponent, all of it goes out the window. It's a unique problem to grappling that you can't train solo and get anything out of it, apart from doing weights/cardio work, which isn't technically BJJ training.

Actually, yes I totally agree with you. I do a lot of grappling. I also do a lot of striking and was more referring to that when I said 'train on your own' - heavy bag work, drills, etc.

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Edited by - fingerormoon? on April 29 2003 20:16:27

N8y5000
4/29/2003 8:29pm,
Wow...That shows where my head is. "Theory lecture" pertains to something other than fighting theory in this case. I get it now. Wow am I slow.

Greese
4/30/2003 2:13am,
Yeah, I use to do the 20k a year thing...now I am taking a semester off and I train for free.

PizDoff
4/30/2003 1:05pm,
"Who else trains very little in class and has to train more at home? "

Me. School sucks. Parents suck. Cleaning sucks. Driving to the gym sucks.


Damn, $36k a year for tuition and board and room is still quite a bit.....something to consider if I move away....

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Dochter
4/30/2003 3:09pm,
Private school primadonnas


**You're all a-holes**

Deadpan Scientist
4/30/2003 4:38pm,
Bite me, farmer boy <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>



Edited by - brandeissansoo on April 30 2003 17:21:25

Blad3
4/30/2003 6:05pm,
SS, I would go everyday, but too much money, trying to find something affordable..


I pay $36,000 a year for 2 2hour aikido classes and 2 2hour KFSS classes a week. I can also attend some "theory" lectures....
mm, I'm sure you do <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> (that would include your full time college fee's though. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> )


In short, Blade is better off going to the daily classes IF it is of a decent standard. Else, the alternative should be taken into serious consideration Yes, but the deal I looked up on the net is out of date, it's much more now <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>


(Judo)-----$50/month Unlimited classes
(ICS)------$75/month Unlimited classes
ICS Covers: JKD, Karate, BJJ, Muay Thai, Silat, Kali, and some Kempo.
(TKD)------I'm on contract right now that was paid about two years ago, about $50/month but I am already paid off. This is nearly perfect, you're very fortunate... I'd love a program like this. I think I could do Judo, for around that price, but I want to focus on my ground game and no-gi takedowns when not in MMA (BJJ at least does no-gi if you want to train no-gi.)


The important thing is to just get started. If you can only afford to do 2 classes per week then do that. At beginner-intermediate level (which I believe you are - apologies If I'm wrong....) you will learn a truckload with 2 classes per week. Just get off your butt and start! :) LOL, I've been going for a year and a half now, but only once a week because of mainly. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

je$u$ FingerMoon, that's an excellent price and class schedule. If that was very 6-7 days a week it would be perfect. My MMA class is VERY cheap (6) but when you take the extortionate travel costs into account I have to pay just over 10.



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