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garbanzo
2/05/2006 11:38am,
I've Searched.

I've Googled.

Does anyone know of any Aikido sparring clips anywhere?

By "sparring" I mean two people going at it without any pre-arranged sequences or cooperation. The level of contact doesn't matter.

I don't mean demo's. I don't mean drilling.

By "Aikido sparring" I mean two Aikidoka using Aikido. An MMA fighter who has Aikido in his/her arsenal stomping someone's face is not what I'm after. Lord Aisia sparring at a throwdown doesn't count.

Clips of Aikidoka using Aikido in free sparring is what I'm after.

Does such a thing exist?

Cullion
2/05/2006 12:00pm,
I'm not sure if this counts. Apparently the techniques allowed are limited, but not 'cooperative' if you see what I mean :-

http://www.wakefield-aikido.co.uk/gallery/13.avi
http://www.wakefield-aikido.co.uk/gallery/14.avi
http://www.su.nottingham.ac.uk/ ~aikido/video.htm

DCS
2/05/2006 12:20pm,
Does anyone know of any Aikido sparring clips anywhere?

By "sparring" I mean two people going at it without any pre-arranged sequences or cooperation. The level of contact doesn't matter.


Clips of Aikidoka using Aikido in free sparring is what I'm after.

Does such a thing exist?

Something like this?

http://www.aikiweb.net/videos/columns/thegrindstone/2005_11_clip4.mov

Cassius
2/05/2006 2:18pm,
I've Searched.

I've Googled.

Does anyone know of any Aikido sparring clips anywhere?

By "sparring" I mean two people going at it without any pre-arranged sequences or cooperation. The level of contact doesn't matter.

I don't mean demo's. I don't mean drilling.

By "Aikido sparring" I mean two Aikidoka using Aikido. An MMA fighter who has Aikido in his/her arsenal stomping someone's face is not what I'm after. Lord Aisia sparring at a throwdown doesn't count.

Clips of Aikidoka using Aikido in free sparring is what I'm after.

Does such a thing exist?While you're looking for that, I have some videos of the Sasquatch that I can show you.

By the way, I do not believe I have ever formally apologized for accidentally stealing your name. Generally I register for things with the name "garbanzobean" because no one ever uses a name similar to that and it's easier than spending 45 minutes trying to come up with something creative that no one else has already taken. Sorry for that.

garbanzo
2/05/2006 2:25pm,
While you're looking for that, I have some videos of the Sasquatch that I can show you.

By the way, I do not believe I have ever formally apologized for accidentally stealing your name. Generally I register for things with the name "garbanzobean" because no one ever uses a name similar to that and it's easier than spending 45 minutes trying to come up with something creative that no one else has already taken. Sorry for that.

No worries.

Great minds think alike.

Cullion
2/05/2006 2:28pm,
While you're looking for that, I have some videos of the Sasquatch that I can show you.

By the way, I do not believe I have ever formally apologized for accidentally stealing your name. Generally I register for things with the name "garbanzobean" because no one ever uses a name similar to that and it's easier than spending 45 minutes trying to come up with something creative that no one else has already taken. Sorry for that.

I have to admit to being somewhat impressed by the video DCS posted.

garbanzo
2/05/2006 2:38pm,
Cullion and DCS:

They all count.

Thanks.

Cassius
2/05/2006 2:39pm,
I have to admit to being somewhat impressed by the video DCS posted.It's definitely better than the usual junk, but I have some issues with it:

1.) The aggressor is rushing forward to the point of offbalancing himself. While this certainly happens, it is considered to be a no-no in the martial arts I've trained in. This certainly does happen, but I'd like to see more of the aikido guy before I say that his energy redirection skillz are mad.

2.) The two takedowns he managed were based on grabbing ahold of the guy's belt and the back of his collar. Again, letting someone get behind you is a big no-no. Also, what does Mr. Aikido grab if he does not have those? Wrist, back of neck? I mean, what if he is going after a sweaty MMA guy (again, hypothetical).

This video is better than the usual shite, but if it's the best Aikido has to offer, no thanks.

I'd definitely like to see more, though.

BackFistMonkey
2/05/2006 2:44pm,
It's definitely better than the usual junk, but I have some issues with it:

1.) The aggressor is rushing forward to the point of offbalancing himself. While this certainly happens, it is considered to be a no-no in the martial arts I've trained in. This certainly does happen, but I'd like to see more of the aikido guy before I say that his energy redirection skillz are mad.

2.) The two takedowns he managed were based on grabbing ahold of the guy's belt and the back of his collar. Again, letting someone get behind you is a big no-no. Also, what does Mr. Aikido grab if he does not have those? Wrist, back of neck? I mean, what if he is going after a sweaty MMA guy (again, hypothetical).

This video is better than the usual shite, but if it's the best Aikido has to offer, no thanks.

I'd definitely like to see more, though.

I swear to god it looks like crappy Hapkido minus out clinch work and decent throws .

But its nice to see them actually trying and attempting something besides co-opt scripted drills .

Mr. Jones
2/05/2006 3:37pm,
I can't see the video DCS does it look something like our randori?

TehDeadlyDimMak
2/05/2006 4:02pm,
What does your typical randori consist of?

DCS
2/05/2006 4:04pm,
Also, what does Mr. Aikido grab if he does not have those? Wrist, back of neck?


The mullet of course, we're talking about hippies, isn't it?

On a bit more serious way: grab what is available at the moment. I like the back of the neck (and sometimes i grab hair for fun, not everybody is bald or has his head shaved).

In any case the clip is not "sparring" in the "Bullshido.com Approved Book Of Martial Arts Training Methods (TM)", it's a drill/experiment with limited purpose and needs to be put in a specific training context (http://www.aikiweb.com/columns/thegrindstone/2005_11.html).

And no, it doesn't looks like Shodokan randori.

ojgsxr6
2/05/2006 4:13pm,
I have to admit to being somewhat impressed by the video DCS posted.

Because that's not really Aikdio, it's the reall Wing Chun.

Mr. Jones
2/05/2006 4:39pm,
It sounds impressive I wish I could see it.

Cough/Cool
2/05/2006 5:45pm,
there was a gentleman that I haven't seen post here in a while. He had some resistant akido clips attached to his signature. It was very good, one of the clips had a dude subbing another with a wrist lock.

Stick
2/05/2006 5:48pm,
I liked DCS' video, but that tournament **** with the horrid knife work was an afront to my eyes.