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Pagan
1/05/2006 7:54pm,
It's often debated about which country has the most practicle and effective martial arts. America has boxing and wrestling. China has kung fu. Japan has jujitsu (which can be divided into judo and karate). Korea has kuk sool won (which can be divided into TKD, Yudo, weapons, ect, ect).

With the recent abundance of video evidence, it can arguably be said that Korea has developed the most effective fighting systems in the world. I would like to introduce another video to further support the notion.

This is a Taekwondo female using North Korean TKD to defeat a Kyokushin Karate man. Kyokushin is a devestating style. I am in no way presenting KKK karate as an in-effective sytle. In fact KKK and Kuk Sool Won share the same techniques. The main difference is fluidity and motion. TKD uses smooth fast motion and is done in a more natural way rather than KKK's "robotic" movements.

It's hard to determine style superiority based on a handfull of videos, but this is a special case. Females being the weaker sex cannot defeat a man of larger or equal size unless they have superior fighitng skills.

Although this example is of TKD, it should be noted that TKD is the "heart beat" of Kuk Sool Won. KSW encorporates many styles into it's "korean JKD concepts" but TKD is the soul.

TKD female vs. Kyokushin male (http://www.suginoharyu.com/html/video/mastercup88/Paul%20Doumbia%20ITF%20World%20Cham.mpg)

Shuma-Gorath
1/05/2006 8:10pm,
Although this example is of TKD, it should be noted that TKD is the "heart beat" of Kuk Sool Won. KSW encorporates many styles into it's "korean JKD concepts" but TKD is the soul.
It should be known that you are the "acid reflux" of this forum and your threads incorporate "nothing new or interesting".

daigoro
1/05/2006 8:10pm,
Thats a man, you jackass.

HwangJangLee
1/05/2006 8:11pm,
taking tkd i beleive that it is a very effective style, but i dont believe that korean arts are the most effective at all. That vid didnt prove much, there was no punching to the face, and the kicks didnt seem to do much damage to either opponent. Korean arts would be more effective if they used the same tecniuqes taught in sparring and fighting.

Yamabushi
1/05/2006 8:11pm,
Pagan, if your brains were dynamite you couldn't blow your nose.

The "woman" in that clip is Paul Doumbia, it says so all the way through the video. Now, Paul could be a girl's name where he comes from or you could be one stupid twat. I know where may vote's going.

Torakaka
1/05/2006 8:11pm,
if only Pagan were funny...

DerAuslander
1/05/2006 8:23pm,
Can we ban him please?

And don't even fucking mention North Korea, twatwad.

Phoenix
1/05/2006 8:27pm,
TKD uses smooth fast motion and is done in a more natural way rather than KKK's "robotic" movements.

Have you even studied Kyokushin before? If you have, you'd know that it's far from "robotic".

Neildo
1/05/2006 8:39pm,
Sweet avatar pic Phoenix. What is that?

Lu Tze
1/05/2006 8:47pm,
Hey Pagan, I made this for you.

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I love you man, keep em coming!

CanucKyokushin
1/05/2006 8:52pm,
This is a Taekwondo female using North Korean TKD to defeat a Kyokushin Karate man. Kyokushin is a devestating style. I am in no way presenting KKK karate as an in-effective sytle. In fact KKK and Kuk Sool Won share the same techniques. The main difference is fluidity and motion. TKD uses smooth fast motion and is done in a more natural way rather than KKK's "robotic" movements.

Although this example is of TKD, it should be noted that TKD is the "heart beat" of Kuk Sool Won. KSW encorporates many styles into it's "korean JKD concepts" but TKD is the soul.

TKD female vs. Kyokushin male (http://www.suginoharyu.com/html/video/mastercup88/Paul%20Doumbia%20ITF%20World%20Cham.mpg)


First of.You're a retard.Get put in a special school right now.The reasons why I called you a retard are as follows.First that's cleary a guy.Second- thats not a style TKD but a derived form of jujitsu .And a good one at that.IMO!

I checked their website.Yes- I did your research for you douche bag and this is what I found.

Suginoha ryu is a jujutsu-style developed by Magnus Cederblad. It is a fundamental martial artform. It is a modern system for self-defense that harmonises the two principal rules: effectivity - it should work well - and grace - it should look good and fluid. These two principles are the foundation for this variation. In some other variations we find moves that don't live up to our expectations and that we find obsolete in daily life. Suginoha Ryu should be applicable to realistic situations. It is a youthful variation where new influences is seen as positive for each individual.

Jujutsu is like a language - never static but dynamic. Curiosity in learning and developing is the key to developing your skills in Suginoha Ryu. The system is split in two main parts - the first is with kyu- and dan-grading for grown-ups (older than 14) and the second is tailored for children and young adults up to the age of 14 (mon). The jujutsu-training is eclectic, which encompasses a wide variety of techniques.

Everyone can find his/her own style that is suitably for them. It doesn't matter if you're tall or short, heavy or light, strong or weak. This is what makes jujutsu such a good form of exercise."
Nowhere does it say it's derived from a TKD style.Even if it was that would mean that theu took something shitty and made it better.


Please for everyone sakes.Shoot yourself once in the head.Then a second time just for effect.


Thank you for the clips.Good find BTW!

MaverickZ
1/05/2006 9:29pm,
the irony of his nonbanning does not elude me.

oh and Pagan...
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Captain Spaulding
1/05/2006 9:36pm,
That was a pretty entertaining clip, though I wonder why some of those head kicks weren't able to do more damage. Maybe something in the rules.

daimyo
1/05/2006 10:22pm,
That guy had some nice throws and sweeps, I'd love to enter competitions like that. Anybody know what kind of competition that was? I liked that kosoto gari into uki goshi combination.

Mjelva
1/05/2006 10:38pm,
this clip clearly showcases an extreme case of teh suq.

ninja edit: and so does pagan.

Pagan
1/05/2006 10:56pm,
Nowhere does it say it's derived from a TKD style.Even if it was that would mean that theu took something shitty and made it better.


So your claiming this is jujutsu? How could you be more in denial? Look at the beggining of the video. It says "Paul Doumbia ITF". She is a Taekwondo lady and an ITF TKD black belt. The throws are from Yudo, the Korean art of grappling.

Paul is short for Paula. Are you so afraid of strong women you have to make things up to hide your insecurity when TKD defeats your sacred cow style?

Notice the fight was done under the KKK's rules. Full contact everywhere, but no punches to the face. A girl beat you at your own game and your a poor sport about it. Can you go sulk somewhere?