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BigNinjaPimp
12/28/2005 7:38pm,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1710198004356172759&q=taijutsu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6347043173838418616&q=ninjutsu

Do you more experienced fighters think this stuff would work in a real fight or not?

TehDeadlyDimMak
12/28/2005 7:49pm,
Did you just ask if Ninjitsu and Taijutsu would work in a fight?

This is a joke right?

BaguaMonk
12/28/2005 7:53pm,
Against untrained fighters in a spontaenous situation....sure if trained well enough. You also have to understand the way supposed "ninjas" trained, pretty intense discipline. Most of those are very common martial art techniques.

In the cage...probably not as well. Mostly because two people start on opposite corners and keep their distance, kicking/punnching range and shooting range. Very different from when someone throws a sucker punch and you might happen to counter it. Trained fighters will react much more different than those guys.

Lane
12/28/2005 7:59pm,
Vid 1 wasn't bad as far as demos go... either the camera was speeded up or they were doing that at a more realistic pace. Of course, it was probably all scripted and not spontaneous, but the actual techniques looked sensible, for the most part, except the gun thing. That was lame.

Vid 2 was decidedly less good, especially the sword part. That was just atrocious.

As far as taijutsu (NOT ninjutsu) working in an actual fight... it depends on the fighter and how they were trained, not the art.

Stick
12/28/2005 8:19pm,
No.

No, really I mean it; no.

Deliciousness
12/28/2005 8:45pm,
They'd probably get murdered unless their opponent didn't know jack. I mean, everquest nerd that hasn't been outside in weeks here.

BigNinjaPimp
12/28/2005 9:27pm,
Vid 1 wasn't bad as far as demos go... either the camera was speeded up or they were doing that at a more realistic pace. Of course, it was probably all scripted and not spontaneous, but the actual techniques looked sensible, for the most part, except the gun thing. That was lame.

Vid 2 was decidedly less good, especially the sword part. That was just atrocious.

As far as taijutsu (NOT ninjutsu) working in an actual fight... it depends on the fighter and how they were trained, not the art.

yeah Iv done some kendo in the past, and his sword work was horible.

katana
12/28/2005 9:48pm,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1710198004356172759&q=taijutsu

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6347043173838418616&q=ninjutsu

Do you more experienced fighters think this stuff would work in a real fight or not?

None of the opponents were resisting so I'd say no it wouldn't.

Jitsuman
12/28/2005 10:08pm,
pathetic that this is even in question.

in case you haven't figured it out the answer is NO.

This **** plain wont work.

well, maybe if you're fighting a mentally retarded midget.....

plasma
12/28/2005 11:56pm,
The First Vid wasn't half bad. The rolling to evade the sword was solid. The Locks were a bit iffy, espcially that Goja Dori. But I seen way worse. The Ninpo Version of the Rear Naked Choke was done very well.

The second video wasn't Ninjutsu. That was Aikido (not even Jujutsu, note the pretty pretty circles).

Mjelva
12/29/2005 12:13am,
The second video was 100% bullshit. The first video was more like 90% or so.
Some of the techniques in the first video are fairly common, but the execution wasn't exactly top notch, and obviously very scripted.
To answer the question, these ninja geeks would get reamed in a real fight.

Virus
12/29/2005 1:20am,
I don't think the second video is bujinkan, looks more like aikido.

Would the stuff on the first vid work in a fight? Depends if you trained it under live conditions. If it works when the guy is resisting and free to counter as he sees fit, then it would be reasonable to assume yes. If it falters under pressure of aliveness then the answer is no.

Demos are most often done to look cool, and put on a bit of a show. That means scripted attacks and counters with complient partners. If such things are 100% of thier training then they shouldn't expect to do well against opponents that know what they are doing.

By the way; what happens when a BJJ demo is put on? Do you turn up to see some guy in the guard for fifteen minutes? :)

BigNinjaPimp
12/29/2005 1:41am,
Yeah I agree the second video is complete ****.
The first though seems to be decent imo. cause my old teacher was an expert in wrist locks and joint locks and some of those techs look familiar.

psycho-active
12/29/2005 2:41am,
The **** looks rehersed. So probably not.

sweats
12/29/2005 9:39am,
The First Vid wasn't half bad. The rolling to evade the sword was solid. The Locks were a bit iffy, espcially that Goja Dori. But I seen way worse. The Ninpo Version of the Rear Naked Choke was done very well.

The second video wasn't Ninjutsu. That was Aikido (not even Jujutsu, note the pretty pretty circles).

Seriously? The rolling around when the guy had the sword seemed pretty bad to me. Granted, I don't know **** about sword work. However, it looked like he could have easily gotten the guy with the second swing, but he just pulled it.

SuperGuido
12/29/2005 9:55am,
This will probably get thrown in "Your Martial Art Suck", as the "Does Ninjutsu Work?" argument has gone on for quite a bit.

Rather than form opinions based on a video about an entire art, ask someone like Shinbushi.

The videos looked silly, and even the first one seemed very slow and sloppy for a demo.