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M Neal
4/17/2003 1:07pm,
I am not the biggest fan of TKD but it is not completely useless.

http://www.werribeebanner.com.au/read.asp?article=2142011.txt&s=news

Two heroes warn of night dangers

TWO local youths who rescued a girl from a sexual attack by a teenage gang have warned of the dangers of walking alone at night.

Hoppers Crossing youths Nick Evans and Chris Barber, both 17, stumbled on the incident about 8pm on March 21 in a car park at the corner of Derrimut and Hogans roads, Hoppers Crossing.

They risked their own safety when they approached the girl's attackers, five well-built men they estimated were aged 18 to 20.

"The girl was crying, two of them were touching her on the chest," Nick said.

"I didn't want to just walk away and then read in the paper about her being raped the next day."

Nick and Chris were walking from Werribee Plaza to McDonald's where a friend worked when they came across the attack.

Chris admitted to nerves as he and Nick approached the group, but said their martial arts training gave them confidence as they approached.

Chris has years of boxing training, while Nick is proficient in taekwondo.

Both represented MacKillop Secondary College in taekwondo and were part of the school's team that won silver at a state schools competition this year.

Chris and Nick explained that when they confronted the group, one of the men threatened to stab them.

"Then he punched me in the head," Chris said, "but I put my elbow up into his face and he bent over."

Nick also said he was attacked by two of the men, but landed a side kick to the chest of one.

He said that when Chris joined him after fighting off his attacker, the group turned and ran, yelling abuse.

They came to the aid of the girl, and described her as being in a state of shock. Despite their urgings, she did not report the incident to the police.

Nick and Chris said their ultimate message was for people to prevent it happening to them.

"Don't get into the situation in the first place, travel in groups or organise to be picked up," Nick said.

Chris said: "You need to be careful - don't walk home by yourself at night. Guys need to be careful too - they will be picked on for no reason."

They did not advise people to confront attackers as they had.

Snr Sgt Peter Miller of Werribee police is investigating the pair's report, and agreed that planning was a key factor in staying safe.

"There is not a huge number of taxis around Werribee at night, so people need to think ahead and plan lifts with friends and family," he said.

He advised that when it was necessary to walk home to stick to main roads, walk against the traffic, and keep in a group

Phrost
4/17/2003 1:43pm,
Kungfoolss beat you to it. It's up on the front page as news.

Kungfoolss
4/17/2003 11:35pm,
Kungfoolss beat you to it. It's up on the front page as news.


I actually sat on the story for 6 days after it came out before posting it, had I waited an additional 2, M Neal would've beaten me to it.

I don't know why I posted it, probably because everyone beats up on the TKD guys (as I do and rightly so), but as Mr. Larkin once told me, "Even a poorly structured TKD ridge-hand can still hurt when it hits."

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Blad3
4/18/2003 1:36am,
I;ve heard a lpot of stories about TKD people fending of attackers, a lot. It's usually a women or girl who gets a gang to run away from her...

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Phrost
4/18/2003 7:14am,
The general public has watched enough TV and movies that they're conditioned to be afraid of someone throwing kicks in multiple directions, ala Buffy the Vampire slayer (Brown Belt, TKD).

It would definitely be intimidating to a group of brain dead street trash.

PizDoff
4/18/2003 7:56am,
I love it.
Hahaha.



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patfromlogan
4/18/2003 10:10pm,
Phrost: "The general public has watched enough TV and movies that they're conditioned to be afraid of someone throwing kicks in multiple directions"

Well...they are even more conditioned to being afraid after their ribs break. Have you ever really kicked some attacker on the street? I have. They fly back a long way from a hard side kick. I know, I know, I'm supposed to shoot in a and submit, and I promise that if I ever fight again I'll use mma and nhb and bjj and try real hard not to just kick the **** out of 'em.

One of my bb buddies who ran a American kempo school years ago did a similar thing to a group, he said that the cool kick was to the second guy (they were attacking a girl) because he had time to get set and break ribs. As far as I can tell these rednecks here in Utah have real shitty kick techniques - they think that cowboy boots make them good kickers, I guess. And their kick defense is almost nonexistant. And they have no idea what a sweep means or what to do when their shin gets stomped.

>>>Always walk on a bright, wide road. If you choose to live with your right posture, you don't have to go on a dark road or a malodorous place. Oyama

Kungfoolss
4/18/2003 11:07pm,
The general public has watched enough TV and movies that they're conditioned to be afraid of someone throwing kicks in multiple directions, ala Buffy the Vampire slayer (Brown Belt, TKD).

It would definitely be intimidating to a group of brain dead street trash.


I'll be the first to admit TKD works great as long as you don't have to contend with an opponent that will immediately close the distance by shooting in on you or "crashing your zone."

The Wastrel
4/18/2003 11:11pm,
The real inescapable problem of kicking arts is that they WILL create this "crash"...but don't worry Pat, kyokushin r0x0rs!

And Pat, don't get too happy about someone who is training BJJ right now saying this, but the most decisive street fight victory I ever had was from the use of a straight side kick. Haven't been in a real fight since, though.

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Freddy
4/19/2003 3:17pm,
I know of a case of a TKD instructor splitting someone's stomach open with a powerful side kick and would agree about the side kick.

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