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Pandinha
4/09/2003 8:06pm,
I was at a business associate's house yesterday in San Diego. Actually left this morn. This place was freaking huge. Another story. Some of our mutual friends were there. One who was derisive of BJJ. One of his best burns was, "Why do grown men want to roll around missionary style like that? Seems Homo Erotic to me."

So yesterday, he brought it up, I said you wanna go, he accepted. I decided to start from the knees as we had no mats. Even better, I just hooked his neck and arm and brought him down into my guard. Less way to hurt him that way. I was half sitting int he guard, he decides to go straight and to my right over my shoulder to get out. I open my guard, hook my left foot over him and climb to his back. I had my forearm over his throat and said nicely, "Tap anytime or get choked."

He tapped. It lasted a whole 7 seconds. First time with a non trained individual. Just wanted to share. It was damn easy. =o)

Can't wait till class tomorrow!

Oh the whole reason for this, was we were supposed to roll with the house owner's BJJ instructor who was from a Machado school. He never showed up, so... Idle hands and all.



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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Blad3
4/09/2003 8:28pm,
i think you just lost a bussiness associate/mutual friend <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

good going though <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>



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Edited by - Blade Windu on April 09 2003 20:29:41

Pandinha
4/09/2003 8:33pm,
Nah, just talked to him on the phone. We've been tight a long time, especially for our industry. He did preface the beat down by saying he trained JKD years ago and knew how to grapple.

He's gonna start GJJ now, he says I've inspired him to get back into shape and be able to defend himself. =o)







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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Blad3
4/09/2003 8:34pm,
lol excellent.



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Vapour
4/09/2003 8:42pm,
Do you know how to revive someone who pass out?

I once choked out my friend in judo. My few attempt at choke didn't suceed because I didn't have proper grip, then I got deep grip into his neck, not only that I got my leg around him so I was choking him with my whole body but he still didn't give up. Suddenly my instructor pulled me out. He was choked out. My instructor pushed his knee into his back and my friend came out all right but it was bit scary.

You might get carried away and do really really stupid thing if your opponent show unexpected resistance. Good that your skill level was high enought to hangle him with ease. But you should be careful.

Pandinha
4/09/2003 8:50pm,
Thanks Vapour for your concern. The situation was well in hand. I was first choked out at 8, since the kid i did it with wouldn't stop after I tapped. We all got a lesson on reviving after that. Really funny though, I never thought hitting someone on the balls of their feet would do anything. But most of all, if your opponent is still breathing, let them come out of it themselves. You really don't want to get hit when they do, because the last thing they remember before going out is being choked.


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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Blad3
4/09/2003 8:53pm,
lol yes you definitely should be. everyone should learn CPR and how to help ppl who have be choked out.
True, I thought you were supposed to just leave ppl when they are still breathing..



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Pandinha
4/09/2003 8:58pm,
Yep, chokes to the throat can be nasty. I tend to go for Carotoid chokes myself. No mess, no fuss.



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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Blad3
4/09/2003 9:02pm,
one time i was getting choke, I tapped...choke continued...tapped again..choke continue (the guy hadn't noticed)...tapped harder but I think he thought I was trying to get otu of it by doing this and the intructor and everyone started to shout at him so he let go, I was almost out lol..



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Pandinha
4/09/2003 9:20pm,
Not nice at all. At least it wasn't done with malice.

Not a choke, but I used to study Aikido with my ex wife. Back when we were on good terms.

She executed nikko nage to the ground and a shoulder lock, she kept twisting while i was tapping, repeatedly. I must tapped 20 times, till it hurt so bad, I yelled out, IT FUCKING HURTS STOP! She had brain fart and was totally concentrating on the movement.

I know how it feels to be totatlly helpless as an Uke. =o[

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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Blad3
4/09/2003 9:26pm,
hehe, your shoulder didn;t break tho.. :D



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Pandinha
4/09/2003 9:30pm,
Blade,

My right shoulder still tingles when it's about to rain. LOL

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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche

Greese
4/10/2003 12:20am,
I had one person put me in a sloppy kimura. I didn't tap untill is started to hurt. He was pissed that it took so long for him to get it right, he kept cranking. Luckily, he was crappy and was in bad position. One punch to the throat and smack to the face later, he let go.
Fucker.

danny
4/10/2003 12:29am,
I didn't mean it, I swear! I'm so sorry...don't hurt me.

Blad3
4/10/2003 2:45am,
hmm OK AA :P



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Pandinha
4/10/2003 2:48am,
Blade, actually, it only tingles when she calls me asking for more money. =o)



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A man without a plan, is not a man...

Nietsche