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Leodom
10/19/2005 1:00pm,
There's a rumor floating around that Cheney will resign as VP and be replaced by Condoleeza Rice.

That would be cool!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/19/111925.shtml


After a Washington Post story suggesting that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office is involved in the Plame-CIA investigation, rumors are flying around Washington that Cheney might step aside – and be replaced by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

"If that should happen, there will undoubtedly be those who believe the whole thing was orchestrated – another brilliant Machiavellian move by the VP,” a White House insider told Paul Bedard of U.S. News & World Report.


Hillary versus Condi for President 2008!?!?!

Judah Maccabee
10/19/2005 1:08pm,
As awesome as I think an all-women's race would be, I think the quality of both candidates might be lacking....


....moreso for Hilary than for Condi.

loki09789
10/19/2005 1:25pm,
There's a rumor floating around that Cheney will resign as VP and be replaced by Condoleeza Rice.

That would be cool!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/19/111925.shtml




Hillary versus Condi for President 2008!?!?!

What a way for the current POTUS to trump the BILLARY's

kungfujew
10/19/2005 2:41pm,
http://home.twcny.rr.com/sampierce/condi_whitey.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/ladyrochford/condilursa.jpg
Nothing more need be said.

BackFistMonkey
10/19/2005 2:51pm,
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kungfujew again.


you took all the words out of my mouth with three simple pictures ... Thank you saved my fingers about 3,000 words ...

Leodom
10/19/2005 3:13pm,
And some people think Conservatives and Republicans are racist.

The Bush administration has more "people of color" at higher positions and with more power than any administration in history. Not tokenism, but highly qualified people. The qualified people are then demeaned by Democrats and Liberals as "Uncle Toms" or "workin' for Whitey".

It makes me sick. If the tables were turned; a Democratic administration with African Americans in powerful positions being demeaned by Republicans and Conservatives, there would be no end to the outrage. There would be firings, dismissals, boycotts, etc...

As it is, the racism of the left is tolerated with a wink and a nod. That is blatant hypocrisy!

Zendetta
10/19/2005 3:29pm,
You are right about the highly qualified black people such as Condi and Colin. Kanye West really needs to think on this one.

But then there are people like Armstrong Williams, who unethically fail to mention that they are being surreptitiously paid to represent a fraudulent 'black perspective' on behalf of Bush admin policies. Thats dirty as hell and a perfect "Uncle Tom".

But really, with the way you shuck and jive for the Bush Administration, I don't want to hear about 'hipocrisy'.

Leodom
10/19/2005 3:36pm,
But really, with the way you shuck and jive for the Bush Administration, I don't want to hear about 'hipocrisy'.

At this site, it's just my tendency to root for the underdog and come to the defense of those being unfairly maligned. Politically, I seem to remain in tiny minority status on this forum.

TheManchu
10/19/2005 3:37pm,
And some people think Conservatives and Republicans are racist.

The Bush administration has more "people of color" at higher positions and with more power than any administration in history. Not tokenism, but highly qualified people. The qualified people are then demeaned by Democrats and Liberals as "Uncle Toms" or "workin' for Whitey".

It makes me sick. If the tables were turned; a Democratic administration with African Americans in powerful positions being demeaned by Republicans and Conservatives, there would be no end to the outrage. There would be firings, dismissals, boycotts, etc...

As it is, the racism of the left is tolerated with a wink and a nod. That is blatant hypocrisy!

The main point is, democratic voters vote blacks into government, Republican voters don't. Rice, et al, are appointees: the GOP has done zero to supply blacks with representation, then whine when this is pointed out. Rice is not representation within the government, Powell was not either, they are appointees who are told what to do by those who were voted in, and who can be removed with ease when they represent anything but their employer's interest. The GOP has zero claim to seeking fair representation for any minority except inept white trust funders and paranoid bloggers.

Leodom
10/19/2005 3:45pm,
That is a completely unfair and inaccurate represention.

That is primarily due to the fact that Republicans don't look at people as members of "groups", but as individuals. The Democrat party is very adept at what I would call "group politics". (I am sure there is a technical term, but it escapes me). By playing groups of people against each other, the Democratic party has been successful in the past. (poor versus rich, white versus black, men versus women, etc...). Anyone who defines themselves more by some affinity group than by their individualism will be more comfortable in the Democratic party.

Would your opinion regarding elected blacks in the Republican party change if Condoleezza won the Republican nomination for President in 2008?

Here is a man who is supported well in the Republican party, an elected official no less.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/10/18/165842.shtml

Maryland Lieutenant Governor Michael Steele.

Full disclosure: All I know of Mr. Steele is what I read from this article. Newsmax is a conservative web-site.

Peter H.
10/19/2005 3:55pm,
http://www.answers.com/topic/african-americans-in-the-united-states-congress

The pertinant section of the article appears at the end:


Since no state has had a black majority since the 1940s, black candidates cannot be elected to the United States Senate by black voters alone. Three African Americans have been elected to the Senate in the modern era: Edward W. Brooke, a liberal Republican from Massachusetts, and Carol Moseley Braun and Barack Obama, both Democrats from Illinois.

Yeah, Democrats are doing such a great job of seeing blacks represented in the Senate.

The house has far more african american members than the Senate, but with the size of the districts, in many, if not most cases, a representative can get elected along racial lines.

But you don't see white democrat voters coming out for black Senate candidates, either.

Zendetta
10/19/2005 3:58pm,
That is primarily due to the fact that Republicans don't look at people as members of "groups", but as individuals. The Democrat party is very adept at what I would call "group politics".

This ludicrous and simple minded overgeneralization is itself


a completely unfair and inaccurate represention.

To put it mildly.

In this last election, the Repub party made alot of political hay thru creating and attacking 'Groups' - latte liberals, urban/coastal 'elites', the Gay Agenda, etc etc etc. I know these terms are known to you - known from the right wing info/opinion sources that you listen to.

The republicans are *specialists* at divisive wedge issues. DonkeyCrats do it too (and plenty) but it is naive and unintelligent to pretend that the GOP operatives are above it.

It is this naive, hypocritical, and willful blindness that prompts me to flame you at every occasion when it comes to politics. My impression is that you are a ethical, honest and generally intelligent Christian. I respcet that. The Republican party does not. No matter how they might pretend in order to get your vote, they do not, and their policies show it.

They are beneath you, Leodom.

Leodom
10/19/2005 4:03pm,
Zendetta, I appreciate the kind words.

What you are describing is the Republican party as portrayed in mass-media and pop-culture. I have been involved in the Grass-roots Republican party in Texas for 15 years and that is not an accurate representation of the majority of what I have seen in the party.

Zendetta
10/19/2005 4:11pm,
THe generalized and negative impression of the democrats that you put forward is likewise media created.

I believe that you and the grass roots folks close to you have some personal integrity.

I also feel that it is high time that you and yours wake up to the massive abyss that yawns between that individual grass roots integrity you speak of, and the massive corruption and dishonesty at the top that you are not comfortable perceiving.

You are welcome for the kind words - I want to communicate genuine respect for your integrity because I am constantly bashing you for your naive politics.

TheManchu
10/19/2005 4:12pm,
"democratic voters vote blacks into government, Republican voters don't."

This is neither unfair nor innaccurate. Republicans want to talk blacks into their voter base, not actually do anything to gain them and thus lose their redneck base. Condaleeza in '08 is not an argument, it's a fantasy, and not a particularly interesting one. The odds of someone winning who is, philosophically, Bush, is zero. Dems don't want it, conservatives don't want it, and the center most certainly doesn't want it.

Anyway, the GOP would be more philosophically comfortable with a black candidate they can understand, someone who stands for a tradition more in keeping with their policies. Perhaps Aunt Jemima

KhorneliusPraxx
10/19/2005 4:12pm,
Sweet!!!