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Stick
8/29/2005 10:59pm,
Wow, I gave this fight to Melvin before it started, but now at the end of the second round..... holy surprising crackers batman!

-show ended.

Now that's what I like to see, a fucking fight!

That makes up pretty well for that horrible first episode.

Got to say the quiet one surprised me, guess I let Melvin's mouth and record get the better of my judgement.

Regardless both guys fought great, the wrestling in that first round was great, good slam there and on into the 2nd round even.

I am pleased.

Carbon
8/29/2005 11:12pm,
Never rely on the man who talks himself up constantly. He was only talking himself up so much because he was scared.

Anyways, can anyone say props to Luke? Man I can't believe he got picked last. I like him and I hope he does good in his fights. Also for the previews for the next episode Josh comes in with a sling on his arm?

I am guessing he hurt his shoulder or elbow. What the **** is going on?

seeker of truth
8/29/2005 11:22pm,
I too thought Melvin had it, but man he was pwnd!!!

FMA_Brian
8/29/2005 11:29pm,
I was wondering how the fight would go since Melvin talked so much. I figured he'd fizzle. There is alot of talent in him he might be as good as he thinks in a year or so if he learns from this. At least he didn't cry. Josh looked in trouble from the guillotine several times but he really pulled it out. Great slams.

I want to see Luke fight. He's definitly a team player. He's also so crazy he might do some totally off the wall stuff in the ring; keep it really interesting.

-Brian

Teryan
8/29/2005 11:32pm,
Why are they all wearing the same neckless? The rope and washer one?

I'm getting sick of the Right Guard advertisements IN the show, save it for the commercials.

Pojac
8/29/2005 11:41pm,
Not to be paranoid, but I honestly suspect the necklaces have microphones in them, to make it easier for the film crew to pick up dialogue. I'm not suggesting it's hidden from the fighters, of course they know, and I bet some of them are being really careful about everything they say all day long.

chaosexmachina
8/30/2005 12:04am,
That was funny **** when Melvin came into Dana's office and pretended to quit... He even had me going for a second.

JohnnyCache
8/30/2005 12:36am,
That would have been killer...all I saw was the fight.
I thought melvin made back a lot of ground with strikes in the third round, but damn he was giving up his back a lot when they were on the ground...I was expecting a choke at any time at several points...

Gypsy Jazz
8/30/2005 1:15am,
Pretty entertaining fight in general. Melvin looked really pumped and angry going into the ring, but the second he was there, he just kinda waited and circled. With his attitude I thought I'd see some great aggression.

Josh simply seemed to dominate the clinch and Melvin seemed to only go for guillotines when on his back. It seemed like Melvin was far less comfortable on the ground and josh did a good job of putting him there. Almost every time Josh got the mount, melvin would turn over. I'm quite shocked I didn't see a choke ending that thing.

I'm sure a bunch of other guys caught it too, but when Melvin punched Josh's elbow I was thinking how lucky he got out not hurting himself, but it turns out he did. I don't know if it was luck or planning on Josh's part to catch his hand there, but to me it looked like he was trying to catch the punch with his elbow point and take some oomph out of those punches.

I didn't catch the first episode and I am interested to see Luke. He is from the next town over and trains at a place about half an hour away that I've passed a few times (a Serra gym) when in the area.

lawdog
8/30/2005 8:18am,
I was pretty sure Melvin would get his ass kicked. There's a big difference between psyching out your opponent and simply talking ****. He was always talking ****, which is usually a sign that the person sucks.

Melvin was extremely athletic, but he sucks as a fighter. Almost no skill at all, with the exception of some very basic striking skills.

Josh is obviously a very good wrestler, but he really needs to work on his subs and strikes. He sucks at both. He should have tapped Melvin in the first round.

I hope that fight wasn't any indication of the level of talent we're going to see this season.

Stick
8/30/2005 8:42am,
I'm still waiting to see Mr. Franklin's BJJ coach step on the mat.

Carbon
8/30/2005 8:44am,
Lol I am sorry, but if you would of heard the commentary from all the people watching Melvin train he is hard to catch in submissions. Since he has very strong hips and is very explosive.

It probably took a lot of energy to hold Melvin down, and if you would of heard Josh in the beginning of the fight he said he wanted to ground and pount, not submit.

You need to listen to the fighters stradegies before basically telling them they suck. Melvin is not a horrible fighter, he just isn't comfortable on the ground yet. He has more fights than you have, he has knocked out more people than you have and has great potential to be good.

As for Josh, he is a good wrestler and does need to work on his strikes, but these people are up and coming. If they were already perfectly rounded fighters than I don't think they would need this show to make it to the UFC. Do you?

As for Luke in the challenge, that was hilarious. I was like this guy has one of them in his guard and is yanking on the others leg. I am very very eager to see him fight since he has beat and helped win at a few challenges and exercises.

Pretty crazy.

Stick
8/30/2005 8:52am,
I gotta say, actually enjoying reading Griffin and Bonar's commentary over on spiketv.com.


A lot of people have been calling the second season guys weak. Well, this is just not true…or at least I thought so until I saw them reading bibles together. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but we were getting drunk and jumping in the pool and reading bibles...drunk.

Ktulu
8/30/2005 9:05am,
Also for the previews for the next episode Josh comes in with a sling on his arm?


Franklin said that Melvin broke his hand on missed punch that landed on Josh's elbow. I can only assume that that sling has something to do with that.

Good show, ok fight. I'd like to see a little more aggression.

lawdog
8/30/2005 9:15am,
Lol I am sorry, but if you would of heard the commentary from all the people watching Melvin train he is hard to catch in submissions. Since he has very strong hips and is very explosive.
His strong hips and explosiveness make him athletic, not a good fighter. I saw very little technique or skill from him.


It probably took a lot of energy to hold Melvin down, and if you would of heard Josh in the beginning of the fight he said he wanted to ground and pount, not submit.
I did hear that and I know that was his strategy, but I thhink it has more to do with his lack of submission skills than his preference. He said he was extremely competitive. Being extremely competitive means you want to win. If Josh had better submissions he could have tapped melvin in the first round and finished that fight.


You need to listen to the fighters stradegies before basically telling them they suck.
Well, if his strategy was ground and pound, despite the fact that he could have ended it in the first round with a submission, then his strategy also sucks. That's especially true in light of the fact that he's obviously injured now.


Melvin is not a horrible fighter, he just isn't comfortable on the ground yet. He has more fights than you have, he has knocked out more people than you have and has great potential to be good.
I never said he had no potential. I agree that he has great potential, but right now he sucks in terms of technique.


As for Josh, he is a good wrestler and does need to work on his strikes, but these people are up and coming. If they were already perfectly rounded fighters than I don't think they would need this show to make it to the UFC. Do you?
Nobody expects them to be prefectly rounded, and I realize they'll improve somewhat during the course of the show. I'd just like to see some decent technique.


As for Luke in the challenge, that was hilarious. I was like this guy has one of them in his guard and is yanking on the others leg. I am very very eager to see him fight since he has beat and helped win at a few challenges and exercises.
Yeah, I think everybody wants to see what he can do. From what they've shown, he's definitely the most interesting one. And even though he sounds real kooky, I have a feeling he's probably a very intelligent fighter with good technique. He's obviously very disciplined as well. I was really dissapointed he didn't fight last night.

Ktulu
8/30/2005 9:35am,
I almost forgot... Did anyone notice the giant boxing gloves some of the fighters had on during sparring? What's the purpose of this?