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blankslate
5/08/2005 10:04am,
http://www.usbjj.com

I know it's not a military site.

But this fellow is selling a CD for $7.99 ($2.99 s&h) chock full of BJJ and H2H moves for the soldier.

Sounds like a steal.

Opinions?
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Wounded Ronin
5/08/2005 10:08am,
Isn't military BJJ available on the web for free? It's a public access document, I believe.

So if someone tries to sell it to you he's a scumbag.

blankslate
5/08/2005 10:12am,
Isn't military BJJ available on the web for free? It's a public access document, I believe.

So if someone tries to sell it to you he's a scumbag.

Great. I'd like to have that link..will search this AM.

Here's from the guy's website:

"The CD includes all of the basic and somewhat advanced techinques from the U.S. Military Manual plus more advanced techniques that I have learned plus counters to those techniques."


At this price I'd be willing to purchase it so one of our trustworthy Bullshido members could review it.

punchingdummy
5/08/2005 11:01am,
Some of the other works listed on that site - Applegate, Fairbain and Sykes - are worth reading. The stuff the produced is old, but still excellent (relative to other military H2H manuals/systems).

_Mick_
5/08/2005 2:59pm,
the military teaching bjj is news to me. i know a few marines, and they say their hand to hand combat was based on not dedicating yourself to an opponent. and i would say that you are quite dedicated to a triangle choke. also i have heard that there is very little h2h training in the modern military. why fight somebody, when you can shoot them?

Wounded Ronin
5/08/2005 3:15pm,
Great. I'd like to have that link..will search this AM.

Here's from the guy's website:

"The CD includes all of the basic and somewhat advanced techinques from the U.S. Military Manual plus more advanced techniques that I have learned plus counters to those techniques."


At this price I'd be willing to purchase it so one of our trustworthy Bullshido members could review it.


Hmmph....it used to be here http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-25.150/toc.htm

But now when I go there I get a 404 error.

The thing is, if it used to be a public access document at that address I'm sure that the military maintains it somewhere else as well.

punchingdummy
5/08/2005 4:44pm,
the military teaching bjj is news to me. i know a few marines, and they say their hand to hand combat was based on not dedicating yourself to an opponent. and i would say that you are quite dedicated to a triangle choke. also i have heard that there is very little h2h training in the modern military. why fight somebody, when you can shoot them?

Rangers have been training BJJ formally for years.

Marine MCMAP (which I have not done) seems to have incorporate some concepts, but is not BJJ.

Gypsy Jazz
5/08/2005 5:04pm,
I have stumbled upon this: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-25-150/index.html site many times when checking out what the hell someone was talking about when I was first getting into grappling.

There is a LOT of stuff there. Some have in depth and good descriptions, but others are far too breif and omit many important details. Also the fact that both guys are always wearing camo, and that it's in black and white makes it very difficult to understand exactly what's going on in some of the pictures. It's just a big mess of camo.

blankslate
5/08/2005 5:58pm,
I have stumbled upon this: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-25-150/index.html site many times when checking out what the hell someone was talking about when I was first getting into grappling.

There is a LOT of stuff there. Some have in depth and good descriptions, but others are far too breif and omit many important details. Also the fact that both guys are always wearing camo, and that it's in black and white makes it very difficult to understand exactly what's going on in some of the pictures. It's just a big mess of camo.


Thanks Django! That tells me its pretty basic....will check it out thoroughly before I take the plunge.

Our friend Phil Elmore has reviewed the manual as well:

http://themartialist.com/0604/criticalfm.htm

Poop Loops
5/08/2005 8:50pm,
the military teaching bjj is news to me. i know a few marines, and they say their hand to hand combat was based on not dedicating yourself to an opponent. and i would say that you are quite dedicated to a triangle choke. also i have heard that there is very little h2h training in the modern military. why fight somebody, when you can shoot them?

They don't teach you to triangle his ass. They teach you to be aware of your surroundings and position, how to get in a better position, getting back up.

PL

VikingPower
5/09/2005 9:09am,
Some of the other works listed on that site - Applegate, Fairbain and Sykes - are worth reading. The stuff the produced is old, but still excellent (relative to other military H2H manuals/systems).

You officially rock now due to having Chesty Puller as your avatar, punchingdummy.... :glasses2:

Ronin
5/09/2005 9:22am,
I hate shooting people from the guard, the blood splatters all over my uniform.

blankslate
5/09/2005 9:47pm,
Here's a link I hope that works:

https://134.11.61.26/CD5/Publications/DA/FM/ByPub.htm

Pull up: FM 3-25.150 Combatives

kevinbjjplayer
5/13/2005 7:47pm,
Jesus Christ are you people retarded! Ever heard of modern army combatives? Huh? THey teach it on FT. Benning Georgia. MY father works there.

kevinbjjplayer
5/13/2005 7:48pm,
www.moderncombatives.org