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Kungfoolss
2/04/2005 12:50am,
Soldiers learn hand-to-hand fighting skills

By Jessica Inigo, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Friday, February 4, 2005



BABENHAUSEN, Germany — It took only one trip to Iraq to make it clear to the 1st Battalion, 27th Field Artillery Regiment that weapons are not always the best tool in a fight. In tight spaces, face to face with an enemy, a soldier might not be able to raise his 3-foot-long M16 rifle fast enough. So he needs defensive tactics and hand-to-hand combat techniques to get the upper hand. That’s the message brought to some of the regiment’s troops by the Gracie family.

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Ryron Gracie shows soldiers of the Babenhasuen, Germany-based 1st Battalion, 27th Field Artillery a hold on 1st Lt. Andrew Nilson during hand-to-hand combat training on Wednesday.

The grappling Gracies are known worldwide for bringing their style of Brazilian jujitsu to the forefront with no-holds-barred fights at the Ultimate Fighting Championships. That reputation prompted the Babenhausen troops to tap the Gracies for a weeklong training course.

The goal was to train the trainers, so 1-27th troops could go on to teach their soldiers. “It’s amazing to be working with these guys. It’s a real honor,” said Spc. Michael Leonhardy, who was one of 30 troops selected from the four batteries to train with the Gracie father-and-son team, who came from their Los Angeles academy. “This is definitely something I’ll be able to teach troops in the future that will actually help when deployed. It’s amazing to be learning techniques that I could have used in situations I encountered in Iraq. This is completely worthwhile,” Leonhardy said.

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Soldiers of 1st Battalion, 27th Field Artillery practice jujitsu moves at the gym in Babenhausen, Germany on Wednesday.

This is the first time the Gracie family has taught in Germany, but it’s not the first time the Army has tapped the family for self-defense training. About 12 years ago, Rorion Gracie said, he taught infantrymen with the 2nd Ranger Battalion out of Fort Lewis, Wash. Today, he said, this style of self-defense is one way the Army ignites a “warrior ethos” throughout its ranks. Gracie’s style of jujitsu is about knowing how to subdue an opponent effectively, without the use of excessive force.

Rorion and his son, Ryron Gracie, (pronounced the Brazilian way, with the beginning “R” making an “H” sound,) tag-teamed to show troops that in most situations technique outweighs strength. About 90 percent of close-quarter combat could be handled by a soldier subduing his enemy, without ever having to raise his weapon, they said. Rorion Gracie said he tells his students to assume their enemies will always be bigger and stronger. That way, they are trained to take anyone down. “Soldiers could find themselves in situations where they may have to use lethal force one moment and the next moment restraint. This training helps them avoid accusations that they used more force than necessary,” Rorion Gracie said. All they need is proper self-defense training, he said.

“I think these soldiers are doing wonderful. It’s a new concept for them, but it’s applicable to their job. The weapon is a great tool, but without self-confidence, which this training instills, they could end up being a quick trigger,” Rorion Gracie said. Maj. Will Daniel, commander of the 1-27’s Battery A, found the Gracie academy military training online. The course is called G.R.A.P.L.E. — or Gracie Resisting Attack Procedures for Law Enforcement.

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Rorion Gracie of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and Ultimate Fighting Championship fame has been teaching soldiers of 1st Battalion, 27th Field Artillery Regiment hand-to-hand combat.

The applications of G.R.A.P.L.E. techniques are both humane and lethal, depending on the circumstances, according to the Web site. After seeing the Web site, Daniel contacted the academy and invited them to Germany. Ryron Gracie, who has never taught outside the States, said he was impressed at how quickly the Babenhausen troops picked up the defensive tactics and arrest-and-control procedures. “We review every day and then we add another piece to the puzzle to make the training easy to learn and complete. It’s all about repetition and doing it right and these guys are doing wonderfully,” said Ryron Gracie, 23. He is the oldest of six brothers and three sisters, who all teach at the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy.

Rorion Gracie suggests military units using the G.R.A.P.L.E. techniques take a refresher course every six months to ensure proper performance.

For more information on Gracie jujitsu and the Gracie family, go to www.gracieacademy.com.

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9chambers
2/04/2005 1:43am,
>Ryron Gracie, who has never taught outside the States,
>said he was impressed at how quickly the Babenhausen
>troops picked up the defensive tactics and arrest-and-control
>procedures.

Wait.. they are training the Iraqi police too? Cool.

PizDoff
2/04/2005 1:41pm,
Great, now 90% of gun fights will go to ground.


In tight spaces, face to face with an enemy, a soldier might not be able to raise his 3-foot-long M16 rifle fast enough.

Wing Chun is the answer.

Thaiboxerken
2/04/2005 1:48pm,
Hmm. They're teaching military AND they've shown their system to be effective in MMA competition as well. They're one up on SCARS.

Ronin
2/04/2005 1:52pm,
GJJ is an ideal system for the military, it teaches control, postion, how to aplly techniques in a full speed situation, how not to panic and best of all, it can be taught in a safe manner to anyone.

El Tejon
2/05/2005 11:46am,
BJJ and BJJish has been taught at the School of Infantry for some time now.

ATTENTION New Barbary Pirates, ph34r tH3 d34dly Q1N N4!!!

Pandinha
2/05/2005 1:45pm,
ZZZZZHHHHOOOOO ZZZZZHHHHHIIIITTTTTSSSSSUUUUUU!

Ryron generally is the one that travels to teach outside the US for the Academy. Interesting Rorion went too.

Good post KFS.

Kungfoolss
2/05/2005 8:52pm,
ZZZZZHHHHOOOOO ZZZZZHHHHHIIIITTTTTSSSSSUUUUUU!

Ryron generally is the one that travels to teach outside the US for the Academy. Interesting Rorion went too.

Good post KFS.

Teaching an an artillery unit is a bit moot if you ask me. I don't care what H2H system it is, if it comes down to an artillery unit going H2H with the enemy, the battles basically over. It means the frontline troops have been obliterated and the artillery folks shouldn't be where the enemy are now and have retreated a long time ago.

Pandinha
2/05/2005 9:02pm,
Teaching an an artillery unit is a bit moot if you ask me. I don't care what H2H system it is, if it comes down to an artillery unit going H2H with the enemy, the battles basically over. It means the frontline troops have been obliterated and the artillery folks shouldn't be where the enemy are now and have retreated a long time ago.

I agree.

9chambers
2/06/2005 4:18am,
....... boobies. :)

El Tejon
2/06/2005 10:32am,
Don't you guys listen to Rage Against the Machine? The frontline is everywhere, especially in a guerrilla war such as Iraq where those in the rear with the gear are just as vulernable as those way out on the tip of the spear.

IMHO, I think it is a fine idea that all soldiers learn tH3 d34dly q1n n4.

Gezere
2/06/2005 10:40am,
Teaching an an artillery unit is a bit moot if you ask me. I don't care what H2H system it is, if it comes down to an artillery unit going H2H with the enemy, the battles basically over. It means the frontline troops have been obliterated and the artillery folks shouldn't be where the enemy are now and have retreated a long time ago.


True but any joe knows when you get deployed you may have a lot of additionals duties. These Gun Bunnies may find themsleves on escort duty, gaurd duty, detainee duty (which I have done and had to restrain a few), and more. So its good for them to know this. Bottomline EVERY soldier is an Infantry man regardless or MOS so they have to be up on CTT and other not so common tasks.

Kungfoolss
2/06/2005 10:03pm,
True but any joe knows when you get deployed you may have a lot of additionals duties. These Gun Bunnies may find themsleves on escort duty, gaurd duty, detainee duty (which I have done and had to restrain a few), and more. So its good for them to know this. Bottomline EVERY soldier is an Infantry man regardless or MOS so they have to be up on CTT and other not so common tasks.

I can understand detainee duty, but this is a job reserved for those with the appropriate training (such as military police) and not for those that may do it 'on the side.' I'm quite certain you wouldn't have an administrative clerk or some smuck from the army depot guarding and handling dangerous guerrillas that have just been captured. Just because you wear a black beret, that doesn't make you an army ranger.

In principle, against a conventional foe this would be applicable with mass soldiers that overrun positions, H2H would be an inevitability. With guerilla fighters, such as in Iraq, they're more likely to ambush and subdue convoy guards with RPG's and automatic weapons fire before the enemy ever gets into H2H combat range. However, if we're talking about soldiers/marines/sailors that have to do CQB or special operations, that's a different matter altogether. That sort of training becomes a necessity.

It depends on the type of war being fought, and in the post 9-11 era, conventional wars don't seem to be occurring anytime for the foreseeable future.

Kungfoolss
2/06/2005 10:10pm,
The frontline is everywhere, especially in a guerrilla war such as Iraq where those in the rear with the gear are just as vulernable as those way out on the tip of the spear.



Guerrillas aren't stupid, they'll make sure you're pretty messed up with rpg and automatic weapons fire before they ever get into range to allow a submission hold or lock. If they can't subdue a logistics unit with their tactics, they will withdrawal to avoid losing and to evade capture.

Kungfoolss
2/06/2005 10:41pm,
Guerrillas aren't stupid,

Well most of the time...

http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/rpg_attack.wmv

Hawkeye
2/06/2005 11:08pm,
Just because you wear a black beret, that doesn't make you an army ranger.

For 75th and RTB, it's tan now. Still the same ol' flash. Shinseki took the black beret away and gave it to the rest of the Army.