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J-kid
1/07/2003 1:19am,
Chi and No Touch Kncokouts some people believe in this bullshit even though i would say its the biggest bullshit in the world. But in all fairnes someone prove to me it is real. I dont believe it and i believe if they ever did NTKO someone it was because they suggested it was real and someone believed it to a point where they where expecting it to happen and passed out.

Reminds me of the boxer rebelion in china when all the Kung fu guys thought that there chi would make them invensable. Most of the people know what happen. The Kung fu got shot and killed and they charged at the army. Was over fast and kung fu was banned for a sort period and replaced by the sport of wushu. Under stand just because you believe someone dosnt mean its true. If someone can prove to me that Chi works and exists. Some people think breaking a board means they are channeling there chi but the truth is most time they break boards its a weak dry old pliwood that 5 year old could break. Its really a said joke seeing people yelling and breaking a board any commen joe could do. Breaking Boards proves nothing. there are many reasons why its stupid way to test. Not to mention you see weman and childern in mcdojos doing it all the time and they scream and they seem to be able to do it easyly. To me Chi and NTKO ONE big Focking Joke.

J-kid
1/07/2003 1:21am,
also acapuncher has not been proven to work, I believe the FDA would have put there stamp of aprovely on it , But since its very unproven. I think ill stay with the nice old fashin hand job from a hot chick instead of having some needle stabed in me. hehehe.

Andy Kaufman
1/07/2003 1:36am,
http://www.yellowbamboo.com/videos/Website%201_Broadband_Low.mov

TKD Boxer
1/07/2003 6:29am,
That's some legitiment Proof! LOL

I know what you mean Judo Kid, i hate these frauds about supermagical chi, it's stupid, I would love to see one of the magical chi guys get in the ring and use it, hell, even to see them use it in a fight.

myk hendrix
1/07/2003 7:52pm,
first post... yipee for me....'n'stuff....

I've seen a couple of vids of the NTKO's done by Dillmans crowd. I'm a DKI Black Belt, but not because of his KO theories ! Dillman is actually a kick arse dood in real life- at least he was in his prime. He was never shy of testing himself against his peers and within his system the training is rigorous and realistic.

I think he has definitely drifted off into never-never land with his NTKO's. He does them only with *his* students behind closed doors. The sheep pass out when he waves his hands. What a crock of scheizen !!

This is a real pity IMO.

samantha711
1/09/2003 2:28pm,
MYK,
I also believe that Dillman has some fighting skills, but YEAH...I went to a few of his seminars & his side kick "Lake" came & gave a seminar at my school. The no touch KO's were only done to his own students. When they used to do the regular pressure point hits, I was never knocked out, only a little stunned..
I heard Dillman joke once about throwing his "chi" at a group of college boys walking in the direction of him & his wife. The whole group kinda swayed from the "power" of it...lol
I have a hard time with no touch crap. I believe that every body has energy and that nerves can be struck just right to make you feel strange, but that's about it.

<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Sam

PeedeeShaolin
1/09/2003 2:43pm,
You want some good advice? Don't even ASK for proof. The only people who are going to defend it are NUTCASES and CRACKPOTS so its not even worth it to argue with them.

The truth is obvious.

Kempocos
1/09/2003 4:15pm,
I have trained with the person who started Dillman down this path Master Oyata and currently train with preasuure points and knockouts in a combat sense. The uki's do not just stand there they attack and the knock out is the result of interupted blood flow. The choice of points to attack help with the amount of pain. The only way I have been able to move someone without putting a hand on them was when I let my escrima stick do the work , wait I guess that would be a touch.

Of course this hurts, after all it is not basket weaving.

ksmythe
1/09/2003 5:07pm,
PeeDee ... come on man .. how can you say there is no such thing as chi! Look what I can do to this hammer!

http://www.consumerreports.org/content/Home/Gallery/Photos/197302.jpg

"Gentlemen! No fighting in here! This is the War Room."



Edited by - ksmythe on January 09 2003 16:08:56

Mr. Donkeypenis
1/09/2003 5:47pm,
Quote: "the knock out is the result of interupted blood flow. "

You just described a choke.

A.K.A MEAT

PeedeeShaolin
1/09/2003 6:23pm,
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Kiaiiiiii motherfukker!!!

Kempocos
1/10/2003 12:56am,
donkey - chokes do that , however I am refering to striking vital points, along the neck for example a couple of well placed strikes will result in a knockout.

Of course this hurts, after all it is not basket weaving.

The Wastrel
1/10/2003 1:09am,
One well-placed strike can result in a knockout.

**The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**

The Wastrel
1/10/2003 1:45am,
I just ate three ounces of rum. Does that count?

**The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**

MartialArtist
1/10/2003 2:03am,
Chi and No Touch Kncokouts some people believe in this bullshit even though i would say its the biggest bullshit in the world. But in all fairnes someone prove to me it is real. I dont believe it and i believe if they ever did NTKO someone it was because they suggested it was real and someone believed it to a point where they where expecting it to happen and passed out.

Reminds me of the boxer rebelion in china when all the Kung fu guys thought that there chi would make them invensable. Most of the people know what happen. The Kung fu got shot and killed and they charged at the army. Was over fast and kung fu was banned for a sort period and replaced by the sport of wushu. Under stand just because you believe someone dosnt mean its true. If someone can prove to me that Chi works and exists. Some people think breaking a board means they are channeling there chi but the truth is most time they break boards its a weak dry old pliwood that 5 year old could break. Its really a said joke seeing people yelling and breaking a board any commen joe could do. Breaking Boards proves nothing. there are many reasons why its stupid way to test. Not to mention you see weman and childern in mcdojos doing it all the time and they scream and they seem to be able to do it easyly. To me Chi and NTKO ONE big Focking Joke.

Once a fighter, Always a fighter. Shawn

I agree with you.

But I find it odd that after so many people teach you, that you don't understand chi. Chi IS NOT a mystical energy force. Chi is what allows a person to overcome an obstacle, such as a man throwing a much heavier man around. I see it as energy (manipulation such as if I put pressure on your head, you won't be able to kick), momentum manipulation, and internal energy. By the way you talk, you do believe in internal energy. Internal energy being the driving force, where the mind doesn't let you quit and giving your body extra power to perform under given conditions.

The Wastrel
1/10/2003 2:12am,
Omigod...alright, where's the rest of the anti-qi peanut gallery?

**The most miraculous power that can verifiably be attributed to "chi" is its ability to be all things to virtually all people, depending on what version of the superstition they are attempting to defend at any given moment.**