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8/25/2004 2:26pm,
Anyone read this book by Pete Earley?

Focuses on 6 different inmates at Leavenworth, a couple of them AB. It was pretty interesting. The AB members were Dallas Scott and Thomas Silverstein. Scott told the story of how the group formed in the 1960s without ever actually saying he was a member. He basically said that several old school convicts got fed up with large groups of black and hispanic inmates beating and raping white inmates. The result was a full blown race war. It seems like the group was formed as a means of protection and survival and later morphed into the current model that we hear about today. Silverstein is still to this day locked in the basement of a maximum security federal prison ( Marion?) because he murdered two members of the DC Blacks prison gang and a Leavenworth corrections officer. He has not heard a human voice in years because the guards will not talk to him for murdering one of their own. There is also a fluorescent light shining 24 hours a day in his cell. He has become a model for prison rights advocates who say these kinds of conditions have made him even more mentally unstable.

8/25/2004 2:29pm,
Here are some excerpts from the book:

Of the prison gangs, the Aryan Brotherhood is the most secretive, and with good reason. Any member who betrays its secrets is automatically sentenced to die.

As we talked that morning, I noticed that Scott marked events in his life by prison incidents. "I hit the federal system the same year they executed the red Light bandit" he said. Seconds later, he added that something had happened. "About the same time as the race wars at San Quentin." When this was called to his attention, Scott Schrugged. "Ive never had much concept of life outside jail. I was twelve years old the first time I went in and haven't really been out long enough to know anything else but this life."

"As the years go by and you get older, you realize more and more that your life is considered a failure by society's standards," Scott continued. "You are a jailbird. You don't have any money, no house, no job, no status. In society's eyes you are a worthless piece of ****. Now, you can buy into what society says and decide you really are a piece of **** or you can say ,"**** society, Ill live by my own rules. They aren't society's but they are mine and that's what I've done. In your society, I may not be anybody, but in here I am."

In 1966 he robbed a bank in California, was caught and sentence to San Quentin. At the time, San Quentin was in the midst of what prison officials now acknowledge was an all-out race war. The racial turmoil in the world outside prison, where fires were burning in Watts, Detroit, and Chicago, was magnified in San Quentin. Blacks and whites were stabbing one another, not because of anything anyone had done, but simply because of their skin color. "Your hate was at peak" Scott realled. "Your adrenaline was at a peak, everything was at a peak level all the time. It was like a jungle. You'd get yourself fired up, so by the time the cell doors opened, you'd be ready. You'd have a whole head of steam. You didn't have time to analyze or rationalize or philosophize, you just got strapped (got yourself a knife) and went out of your cell and did what you ahd to."

It was in this climate that the Aryan Brotherhood was born. Bureau officials claim that Dallas Scott was one of its founding members. I asked Scott if he recalled the birth of the AB, and without acknowledging that he was a member, he explained why the gang had formed at San Quentin. He didn't hide his racial attitude. "Whites are everyones natural enemies," he said. "Minorities stick together, but the white man by nature walks alone. I've seen whites sit by and watch a bunch of ******* attack a white kid in a cell. These yahoos were sitting there and thinking, "Goddamm, I'm shure glad its not me being fucked" but if one white guy had the courage to say 'hey leave the kid alone' and he stepped forward, then there was a good chance that the pack will back off. See people who herd together deep down are afraid of someone who has the balls to stand up on his own. Now I aint saying that the white man who stands up sint going to get his ass kicked. But when he stands up, he's letting everyone know that he's willing to do what it takes, and get killed if necessary, because he dont like what's going down, and that is intimidating to someone who runs in a herd like blacks do.

"At San Quentin the herds were getting out of hand and a bunch of old white bulls simply said "**** this" and they decided to stand up, and you can be damm shure that when these old bulls formed the tip (Aryan Brotherhood), there were a bunch of white guys, who either weren't strong enough on their own or were afraid, who were damm glad."

Scott's explanation, it turned out was largely based on fact. The Aryan Brotherhood originally formed to protect white inmates from being victimized by black and hispanic prison gangs. The Black Guerilla Family, a militant, black revolutionary gang with ties to the Black Panther party, was the first known prison gang, and was strong at San Quentin at the time. Chicanos were divided into two gangs: The Mexican Mafia, composed of urban Hispanics from Maravilla section of East Los ANgeles, and their hated rivals, the Nuestra Familia (Our family), made up of rural Chicanos. The Black and Hispanic gangs preyed on whites, as well as on memebrs of their own race.

A study by the criminal Intelligence section of Arizona Department of public safety later suggested that several outlaw bikers who called themselves the Diamond Tooth Gang were the forerunners of the Aryan Brotherhood. The gang members, each of whom had diamond shaped pieces of glass embedded in his front teeth, tried to recruit other whites at San Quentin but failed to attract sufficient "soldiers". Next came the Blue Bird gang, soc alled because its members had bluebirds tatooed on their necks, but it didn't last. The Aryan Brotherhood was born when remnants of the Blue Birds joined forces with several neo-Nazi groups. It is unlikely that it would have survived, either, except for an unusual tactic adopted by its original members. Blacks and Hispanics had always relied on numbers for strengh, and routinely pressered new inmates to join. The Aryan Brotherhood took the opposite tack. It based its membership on each others physical strengh and willingness to kill. Anyone who wished to join the AB had to meet a "blood in, blood out" rule.

8/25/2004 2:30pm,
As soon as it was organized, members of the AB put themselves under what they called "kill on sight" orders. When the cell doors at San Quentin opened each morning, AB members were required to hunt down and attack black inmates regardless of whether theybelonged to a gang. The white gang was xonvinced that the best way to keep other gangs at bay was to prove that the Aryan Brotherhood was the most ruthless and savage gang in prison.

California prison officials do not know the precise time when this kill on sight order went into effect. But in 1970, the California system began seeying a dramatic increase in gang related violence. Seventy nine gang related assaults and eleven deaths were reported that year. In 1971, there were 123 assaults and ninteen deaths and in the following yearm 186 assaults and thirty four gang related deaths. The Aryan Brotherhood was not solely responsible for the increases, but among convicts in San Quentin it did earn a reputation for being bloodthirsty. Its founding members, estimated by prison officials to be one hundred men, tolerated "zero disrespect" from other inmates. Even a casual comment about the brotherhood could result in a stabbing if members felt "their" brothers had been insulted.

Legend has it that the best and most respected AB warriors at San Quentin had tatoos of fierce Norsemen drawn on their arms. I noticed that Scott had a Norseman tatoo, among many others on his forearm.

When black militancy began to wane in the mid seventies, the various gangs decided to sign a truce. This brought to a close what convicts called the California race wars, but none of the gangs disperced. The politically motivated Black Guerilla Family was eventually replaced by the drug dealing bloods and cripps. The AB developed into an organized predatorial gang whose main interest became protectionm extortionm and narcotics in prison. The white gang also began to specialize in contract murders for other gangs and individuals, Caltabiano wrote, maintaining its savage reputation.

Another about supermax prison at Marion:

Each man had to find his own way to beat the drudgery of Marion, Some simply slept as many as twenty hours per day. As the years inched by, it became harder and harder for long-term inmates to recall what being on the streets was like. The highest suacide rate in the bureau was among white men in their early twenties, and Dallas Scoott was convince that one reason was that they hadn't learned how to "do time". In order to survive Marion, a man had to learn this. Scott knew how and so did Greschner, who had spend a cumulative total of thirty years locked in various Holes or in a cell at Marion.

"To be healthy you need to interact with other people, and when you lose that you are in isolation or locked up by yourself day after day, all you got is what you are carrying in your own head," Greschner explained. "After a while you start losing the extra baggage. You learn you don't need all the things that society says you need to survive and be happy. Your world starts schrinking. The memories get old and you start losing your identity. Eventually you hit rock bottom, where it is just you and your demons, and the isolation forces you to examine yourself, your fundemental foundation fo who you really are.

"Some people get to that point and find there is nothing there, so they string themselves up. Others break and bail out. They flip over because they are weak and can't take it anymore. But some get down to rock bottom and discover who they are. "For me," Greschner continued, "what I found was a hard, cold ball. I doscovered that all I really needed in this world is the will to live and a knife."

The best way to "do time", Scott and Greschner explained, was by "beating the man". Pour breakfast cereal in the sink in your cell, and water, and let it curdle for several days. It will become potent enough to get you drunk. You've just beat the man. Remove the thin steel wire from inside an eyeglass case and rub it against the bars. It will saw through them. You've just beat the man. Take the plastic wrap covering your food and roll it tight around a toothbrush. Heat it with matches until it becomes hard, and then spend several hours rubbing it against the floor, making its edges sharp. You've just made yourself a plastic knife and beat the man. All of these things have been done at Marion at one time or another, and just when guards were certain they ahd seen it all, convicts like Scott and Greschner would come up with proof that they hadn't.

Beating the man was lesson number one. Lesson two was to feed off the hate. "Anything they do that doesn't kill you in prison, should make you stronger." Scott explained. "The more they try to break you, the more you want to beat them." Pure, unadulturated hate could sustain a man for years.

Peter H.
8/25/2004 2:53pm,
And why is this here?

8/25/2004 2:56pm,
this is off topic isn't it? And it relates to martial arts because in order to survive supermax prison you need a killer instinct and an unbroken will to keep going. Not to mention in some prisons they don't even fist fight but pull a knife right away. What would you do in those circumstances? WHere someone punked you and you know if you hit them or start a physical confrontation it could turn into a knife fight?

Peter H.
8/25/2004 3:08pm,
Yes, it maybe off-topic, but reprinting excerts from the history of the AB? I don't think it matters what I would do in that situation, as I don't plan on going to a supermax prison. I have been jumped by a guy with a knife before, got the scar on the back of my left shoulder to prove it. I still don't see how reprinting the AB origin story here serves to make a point, other than trolling by pissing off people who hate the AB.

8/25/2004 3:14pm,
Note: killer instinct
Ban time.

8/25/2004 5:22pm,
theres no rules in a streetfight and theres no such thing as a fair fight... its pretty much kill or be killed. Fair fight.. rofl. What a joke. That only exists in fairy tales and the ring. The street is neither.

8/25/2004 5:39pm,
Hi Strangler!

Look, man. There are people who will pretend to prison-rape you, just so you can know what it's like. You probably won't even have to pay them...

8/25/2004 7:07pm,
If I ever knew I could possibly facing time in Leavenworth, it would be time to initiate the E&E plan and get the **** out of Dodge. Leavenworth is a very, very bad place.

8/25/2004 9:44pm,
I don't know if you can say what the average person would do inside the joint, for one thing, because the people described in this are straight up nut jobs. What kinds of things happen when one psychotic criminal harasses another? That is a better question.

10/10/2004 3:30am,
In the outside world the tatoos would have made Scott look like a circuis freak, but in Levenworth they were badges of honor, particularly one tatoo cut directly under his heart. It was a cloverleaf with the numbers 6-6-6 printed voer it. Even fish knew what the tatoo represented. It was the insignia of the Aryan Brotherhood, the most savage white prison gang ever formed. The three sixes referred to a mark given by "the beast" - the antichrist, or son of satan.

The bureau's gang expert, Craig Trout, explained. "What we are dealing with is a profesional lifelong criminal... An AB member like Dalas Scott is actually doing a life sentence - only he's doing it on the installment plan, serving a few years at a time.

10/10/2004 3:31am,
Americas most dangerous prisoner:

you need real player (can someone direct link it?:


Here is the background:

Thomas Silverstein entered the federal prison system in 1975 after he was convicted of three bank robberies that he pulled with his father and his uncle. He was 19 years old. Three years later, he was convicted of murdering an inmate who had run afoul of the Aryan Brotherhood, the most feared white gang in prison. Silverstein was identified as a member of the AB, convicted, and sent to the federal prison in Marion, Illinois, the harshest in the country at the time. A judge later overturned this conviction after ruling that the witnesses against Silverstein, which included a prison guard, were not believable. His ruling came too late, however. By then, Silverstein had been convicted of a second prison murder -- this time the strangulation of a black prison gang member. Another murder soon followed. It involved Raymond "Cadillac" Smith, the national leader of a black prison gang who had sworn to avenge his fellow gang member's death. Prison records show that Smith made several attempts to murder Silverstein, yet prison officials kept the two men in cells close to each other. Silverstein and another inmate, Clay Fountain, broke out of an exercise area and caught Smith as he was leaving a shower area. They stabbed him 67 times and then dragged his body up-and-down the prison tier so that other prisoners, still locked in their cells, could see the bloody corpse. Officer Merle Eugene Clutts was assigned to help bring order to the cellblock where Silverstein and Fountain were housed. Silverstein claims Clutts immediately began harassing him, but an investigation by the federal Bureau of Prisons and FBI would later clear Clutts of any wrongdoing. Silverstein would claim those two probes were whitewashes. Regardless, Silverstein became obsessed with Clutts and spent months plotting his murder. On October 22, 1983, with the help of other inmates, Silverstein slipped off his handcuffs while he was being led to a shower. Brandishing a home make "shank" -- knife -- Silverstein broke free from the two guards escorting him and attacked Clutts, who was not carrying any weapons. An autopsy later showed Clutts had been stabbed forty times.



This is the view from the exercise bike in the indoor recreation room. At one point, Silverstein did two thousands situps and one thousand push ups per day to stay fit. He did them in groups of one hundred.

self portrait

1/31/2005 4:01am,

"On October 22, 1983, a Marion inmate named Thomas Silverstein managed to shake the federal prison system to its core. Returning to his cell from his weekly shower, handcuffed and escorted by three guards, Silverstein paused outside the H-unit cell of another inmate, Randy Gometz. In the flash of an eye, Gometz reached through the bars, unlocked Silverstein's cuffs with a hidden key and passed him a "shank"--a homemade knife.

Silverstein broke away from two of his captors and cornered the third, Officer Merle Clutts, who'd been distracted by another prisoner. By the time Silverstein was subdued, Clutts had been fatally wounded, stabbed more than forty times.

Later that same day, another H-unit inmate, Clay Fountain, performed a similar handcuff trick, killed another guard and stabbed two others. Like Silverstein, Fountain was already serving three life terms for the murders of other inmates. Both men were reputed members of the Aryan Brotherhood, with a pathological hatred of corrections officers; both had virtually nothing to lose. Prison legend has it that Fountain didn't want Silverstein to "get ahead" in the body count.

The murders triggered a lockdown of the entire prison--a lockdown that, with few modifications, persists to this day. In testimony before Congress and in media interviews, BOP officials still invoke the deaths of the two guards as ample justification for their policies regarding predatory inmates.

Yet critics of Marion, and now ADX, claim the official explanation of the lockdown is misleading. They point out that both murders occurred in what was already Marion's most restricted area, its long-term control unit; they say the deaths merely accelerated plans that were already in the works to convert the entire prison into a control unit.

Marion opened in 1963, the same year that Alcatraz closed. It was supposed to be not just a replacement for "the Rock" but an improvement, with a more open design and modern rehabilitation programs. In the late Sixties the prison began experimenting with solitary confinement as part of a program known, ironically, as CARE (Control and Rehabilitation Effort).

H-unit was officially designated a control unit in 1973. Because court rulings and corrections standards severely limit the amount of time a prisoner can spend in isolation for disciplinary reasons, placement in H-unit was described as being for "administrative" rather than punitive purposes--a practice since widely emulated by state prisons and even some local jails.

In 1978 BOP revised its classification system, and Marion became the system's only level-six (maximum-security) prison. By that time, it had already become the most violent prison in America and a dumping ground for hard-to-manage inmates. In the four-year period leading up to the lockdown, the prison logged 81 inmate assaults on other inmates and 44 on staff; thirteen prisoners were killed. After a series of work strikes, officials shut down what was once a thriving prison industry. BOP reports issued in 1979 and 1981 proposed turning the entire facility into a "closed-unit operation"--a notion finally realized in the wake of the 1983 murders.

The lockdown didn't solve Marion's problems, however. Reports proliferated of reprisals by guards, including vicious beatings, forced rectal searches and the use of "four-point spreads"--chaining a prisoner to his bed, naked and spread-eagled, for hours at a time. In 1988 a federal judge threw out a lawsuit seeking an end to the lockdown, saying that inmates' accounts of staff brutality were simply not credible. Yet human-rights groups continued to hammer away at BOP, denouncing Marion for alleged violations of the United Nations' minimum standards for treatment of prisoners."

1/31/2005 4:01am,



1/31/2005 4:02am,
oh just **** off