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jimbo salvatore
10/22/2017 9:04am,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlapUt-khbo

BackFistMonkey
10/22/2017 9:16am,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlapUt-khbo

When starting a thread please embed the video and throw out at least a couple sentences giving your opinion or technical break down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlapUt-khbo

jimbo salvatore
10/22/2017 9:21am,
Sorry, I will get better in the future, I am new.

MisterMR
10/22/2017 9:22am,
I don't see any sparring in this video...

???

BackFistMonkey
10/22/2017 9:28am,
Sorry, I will get better in the future, I am new.

So what do you think? Is it good stuff? Solid Systema? Better than average? Sexually Arousing?

jimbo salvatore
10/22/2017 9:40am,
Well that is the problem with Systema videos, they put these false titles. Systema in Serbia is relatively popular since we like Russia, and when they told us that it was used by top Spetznaz units a lot of people joined and started training this new Russian military orthodox christian spetznaz style. I remember a TV show where Serbian Systema instructor was telling a story how he met a Russian army guy and has shown him Systema, Russian guy told him that he never saw anything like that. Systema instructors explanation was that the Systema was so secret that it was used only by top units.
Also, Russian Orthodox Church has issued a statement against Mikhail Ryabko calling Systema an occult cult.

http://sueverie.net/na-okkultnuyu-sistemu-ya-blagosloveniya-ne-daval-i-davat-ne-mog.html

https://azbyka.ru/video/pravda-o-sisteme-ryabko/

http://missia-dpcentr.narod.ru/Beskontakt.html

If I have time I will try and translate some of the text.

jimbo salvatore
10/22/2017 9:49am,
Нарушение принципов и правил тренировки, харизматическое экспериментирование в методах, подходах и содержании процесса обучения ведет не только к ослаблению реальной
физической подготовки спецназа, но и к разрушению интеллектуального и соматического здоровья вовлеченных в подобные культовые системы.

Destruction of principles and rules of training, charismatic experimentation with methods, approaches and content of learning process is weakening physical abilities of spec forces and is destroying them intellectually and physically.

BackFistMonkey
10/22/2017 10:54am,
Нарушение принципов и правил тренировки, харизматическое экспериментирование в методах, подходах и содержании процесса обучения ведет не только к ослаблению реальной
физической подготовки спецназа, но и к разрушению интеллектуального и соматического здоровья вовлеченных в подобные культовые системы.

Destruction of principles and rules of training, charismatic experimentation with methods, approaches and content of learning process is weakening physical abilities of spec forces and is destroying them intellectually and physically.

The first two hits on Google using that quote takes one to a wonderfully ironic trip into Russian Orthodox Christians calling out " "System" Ryabko " for being a shitty Pro Putin Occult Cult.



Having studied numerous materials about the so-called "Ryabko System" (its opponents and supporters) and having conducted a number of conversations with clergymen engaged in it, I came to the following conclusion:

"Ryabko system" is an occult-esoteric neopagan cult of pseudo-sports orientation.
It is built according to a typical scheme of having several levels of initiation.
The lower level is designed for an orthodoxly oriented organization.
Adherents of the cult show clear signs of the consequences of neo-pagan manipulation (zombification) of their psyche, consciousness and spirituality.
The main feature of cults of pseudo-sports orientation is the desire to be introduced into the system of sports, military-patriotic and combat training in the Russian Federation by mass advertising of supposedly new and super-effective methods of fighting, hand-to-hand combat and self-defense. These cults are a special numerous group with specific features. They actively penetrate the power departments, in numerous security and security services, and private security companies.

In fact, they set as their goal the cutting off of our compatriots from their native culture and creative traditions, out of the box impose alien neo-Eastern and neo-pagan spirituality, propagandize occultism and magic, destroy the healthy spirituality of people. Often, these cults are secretly directed and stimulated from abroad to destabilize social processes in Russia and the disorientation of employees of law enforcement agencies. They also sometimes disguise themselves as supporters of traditional religions (first of all - Orthodoxy and Islam). Psevdosportivnye cults have all the typical signs of religious associations, but, as a rule, they conceal their occult-religious affiliation by introducing several closed levels of initiation. The creeds of these cults are very eclectic and primitive.


Irony on irony.

Systema is a joke in legit MA circles who aren't balls deep in Far Right activities and delusions.

*edit*
Oh yes links ... http://dpcentr.cerkov.ru/borba/okkultnaya-sistema-m-v-ryabko/
and http://ansobor.ru/news.php?news_id=3065

... and actually it is the first three links no google and you will need some Google Translate action if you don't read the lingo.

ermghoti
10/22/2017 2:21pm,
I don't train weapons, but it's obvious that training with a sharpened knife is useless. The attacker needs to take care not to cut the defender, which means abandoning the very techniques most likely to succeed, which, in turn, will mean taking attention from the defenses to those attacks. This is above and beyond the typical handicap of practicing only against compliant partners.

Michael Tzadok
10/22/2017 2:32pm,
I don't see any sparring in this video...

???
Flow drills at best. Which are good for what they are, but if you want sparring I want to see a guy come in like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHSXZnxLZ0I
Because that is a lot more likely how a serious knife attack will happen.


Well that is the problem with Systema videos, they put these false titles. Systema in Serbia is relatively popular since we like Russia, and when they told us that it was used by top Spetznaz units a lot of people joined and started training this new Russian military orthodox christian spetznaz style. I remember a TV show where Serbian Systema instructor was telling a story how he met a Russian army guy and has shown him Systema, Russian guy told him that he never saw anything like that. Systema instructors explanation was that the Systema was so secret that it was used only by top units.
Also, Russian Orthodox Church has issued a statement against Mikhail Ryabko calling Systema an occult cult.

http://sueverie.net/na-okkultnuyu-sistemu-ya-blagosloveniya-ne-daval-i-davat-ne-mog.html

https://azbyka.ru/video/pravda-o-sisteme-ryabko/

http://missia-dpcentr.narod.ru/Beskontakt.html

If I have time I will try and translate some of the text.
Honest question do Serbs speak Russian? Because pretty much all of the Systema marketing has been disproven, and can be found(or at least a few years back) with Russian Google search. I think links to a lot of it were posted here on Bullshido at point or another. I just don't feel like repeating the same things again, which is why I'm not going to repost it all now.



The first two hits on Google using that quote takes one to a wonderfully ironic trip into Russian Orthodox Christians calling out " "System" Ryabko " for being a shitty Pro Putin Occult Cult.



Irony on irony.

Systema is a joke in legit MA circles who aren't balls deep in Far Right activities and delusions.

*edit*
Oh yes links ... http://dpcentr.cerkov.ru/borba/okkultnaya-sistema-m-v-ryabko/
and http://ansobor.ru/news.php?news_id=3065

... and actually it is the first three links no google and you will need some Google Translate action if you don't read the lingo.

I've been saying this for years.

BackFistMonkey
10/22/2017 3:24pm,
I've been saying this for years.
... and isn't it nice to have outside validation?
Especially from the like minded people over at the Russian Orthodox Church?

jimbo salvatore
10/23/2017 1:11am,
Flow drills at best. Which are good for what they are, but if you want sparring I want to see a guy come in like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHSXZnxLZ0I
Because that is a lot more likely how a serious knife attack will happen.


Honest question do Serbs speak Russian? Because pretty much all of the Systema marketing has been disproven, and can be found(or at least a few years back) with Russian Google search. I think links to a lot of it were posted here on Bullshido at point or another. I just don't feel like repeating the same things again, which is why I'm not going to repost it all now.




I've been saying this for years.


Well, Serbs don't speak Russian, but Systema was on national TV and other TV stations. People here are more or less diplomatic when it comes to other martial arts.
There is a thread on some Serbian forum regarding Systema and there were some arguments against but nothing on large scale.

This is from national TV

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Sri Hanuman
10/23/2017 10:08am,
This is bad. All of it. Bad.
First, it's never a knife or a blade, it's always... ALWAYS an empty vodka bottle.
Quit bringing shame to my culture, you freaking gwailo.

Sri Hanuman
10/23/2017 10:28am,
When starting a thread please embed the video and throw out at least a couple sentences giving your opinion or technical break down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlapUt-khbo

This bullshit drill, Yuri.
Want real man training, this real man training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arh-WxWMzmE

When finish, squat down, have smoke, then continue to non compliant spar at discotec.
Notings, the man on the ground actually win, because he absorb all punchings using Russian chi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqzeJDMEq4s

Another excellents display of Russian wilderness training. Old man is like Shaolins, only no take vow of shaving head and making friendly with the animals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86SwvbnghQ0

Lastings, if still have energies after excitings of discotec and old man hittings, ensure training supremity by destroying 3 bottle at once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsu5KW3KvOs

BackFistMonkey
10/23/2017 10:59am,
I have a little bit of study time in the System Vodka. Systema always reminds me of those days and nights training. Same methodology, same mental focus, same decision making skills same physical skillsets being employed and taught.
I have missed you Comrade Primate.

Sri Hanuman
10/23/2017 11:10am,
I have a little bit of study time in the System Vodka. Systema always reminds me of those days and nights training. Same methodology, same mental focus, same decision making skills same physical skillsets being employed and taught.

You Americans have the Bruce Lee.
We have the Uncle Stanislav who live in Ural and throw things at visitor.
He always say "be like vodka."
Then he try to touch you funny.




I have missed you Comrade Primate.

We together makings Bullshido great again, after hackings your electionings.