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badtigra
6/06/2017 4:16pm,
http://www.brevardshotokan.com/

been looking into it for a little bit, good sign that they're affiliated with the JKA, but does anyone here have any first hand experience with them?
I may go look at them in person sometime later, only hesitant because they're a long drive out. One thing I also spotted with them is there is some child black belts. This seems to be sort of common from what I've seen in Shotokan, so I'm not thinking too much of it.

goodlun
6/06/2017 5:18pm,
Is it taught by someone with the last name Machida?

Bneterasedmynam
6/06/2017 5:45pm,
Is it taught by someone with the last name Machida?

Is Machida shotokan?? I thought he branded as Machida style karate.

To the point of the thread, the best suggestion is for you to try out one of their classes yourself and see if it fits for you. No one on here will be able to realistically answer your question.

BJMills
6/06/2017 6:07pm,
If you're going to check it out I would definitely look at one of their kickboxing classes as well. If they do have a class that offers full contact sparring it would go a long way in terms of keeping their training honest.

badtigra
6/06/2017 9:33pm,
http://www.brevardshotokan.com/about

No Machida, but in the about page it lists their black belts and instructors. Has anyone heard of them before?
Also, I'll go check them out eventually. Can't say when, though.

goodlun
6/06/2017 9:55pm,
They lost me at all of this BULLSHIT


WHAT IS KARATE-DO?

Karate is a martial art (method of combat), which employs a variety of physical techniques, including punches, kicks, blocks, and strikes. Karate puts an emphasis on the acquisition of spiritual insight and development. In traditional Karate-Do, it is always kept in mind that the true opponent is one's self and that the ultimate goals are to seek perfection of one’s character and to touch the lives of others in a positive way.

They are selling you a whole bag of esoteric bullshit.
You know what good Karate is about? Kicking ass....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1KWMpf0TOw

Not trying to teach you to be a better person.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PDqD1TkluA

Oddly enough though, the best people I have ever met are always in full contact combat sports.
Something about actually having to respect your training partners when you are doing things that can seriously hurt each other.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzQI_45quYg

badtigra
6/06/2017 10:29pm,
Will keep in mind. I'll see what kind of sparring they've got when I go check it out.
I know kata isn't a huge factor in identifying mcdojos, but their black belts seem to be really good. That is, from someone who doesn't know too much about shotokan kata.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2WUFnqth_Q&index

goodlun
6/06/2017 10:32pm,
but their black belts seem to be really good

Oh joy? Are you interested in how to preform choreography or how to fight?

sweats
6/06/2017 10:59pm,
I did Shotokan for about 13 years until I started BJJ 12 years ago.

What are looking for from potentially training?

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badtigra
6/06/2017 11:07pm,
Maybe I can dance my enemy to death, goodlum

Sweats, I'm mainly looking for exercise and how to fight. Why I want to learn Shotokan though, is that I'm really into the aesthetic of it. It seems like it could be fairly effective as well.

Raycetpfl
6/06/2017 11:11pm,
I'm really into the aesthetic of it. It seems like it could be fairly effective as well.

Not without learning to kickbox.

goodlun
6/06/2017 11:17pm,
Maybe I can dance my enemy to death, goodlum

Sweats, I'm mainly looking for exercise and how to fight. Why I want to learn Shotokan though, is that I'm really into the aesthetic of it. It seems like it could be fairly effective as well.

Anything that teaches you to fight is going to be good exercise, but not everything that is good exercise is going to teach you how to fight.

Time spent doing Kata is time not learning to fight.

Do you care more about how it looks or how effective it is?

Shotokan isn't known for its effectiveness in environments where it has been pressure tested.

BJMills
6/07/2017 1:22am,
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to learn a style if you go into it with your eyes wide open.

I knew a karate guy who used to run through all of his kata every morning for a cardio workout. Personally I prefer to go running, but the dude was in shape so I guess it was working for him. Sometimes that kind of training keeps people engaged... each to his own I guess.

And yes goodlun is just being honest in that shotokan is not known for fairing well in a pressure environment. Guys like Machida are the exception not the rule.

But if you want to learn shotokan and they also offer kickboxing they may have a decent training program.

goodlun
6/07/2017 2:26am,
they also offer kickboxing they may have a decent training program.

Problem is that can mean MANY different things.
Do they compete in Kickboxing? If so what type even, there is a VERY wide range of kick boxing rule sets from
Semi-Contact/Point Sparing rule sets to Full contact Kick Boxing that includes throws.
Its a very generic term.

scipio
6/07/2017 3:52am,
OP - if you want to learn karate as an end in itself and are happy to do kata then great. Here in the UK the JKA has a good rep. If you want to learn how to beat the **** out of people/self defense then do something else.

Guird
6/07/2017 6:07am,
I did shotokan for a few (~5) years. In retrospect I can't say I'd reccomend the style to anyone looking to learnto fight. There is something very nice about doing shotokan kata, but I think that could just be nostalgia for me.

The school looks to be pretty good at shotokan, (in terms of kata and technique), but i wouldn't get my hopes up for their non-kickboxing classes teachning you much about fighting.

It's possible they do spar by JKA rules in their karate lessons, which strike as a useful form of isolation training (also what machida competed in before kickboxing and MMA, it does seem a little more realistic than WKA), and could be interesting and fun to spar under. But it does look like they are very kata-centric, so your sparring partners likely won't be especially good anyway.

either way, go check them out and get a taste.