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goodlun
8/06/2015 10:45am,
16 Year Old Blue Belt is a Head Instructor of Gracie Academy in Mississippi
http://www.bjjee.com/featured/16-year-old-blue-belt-is-a-head-instructor-of-gracie-academy-in-mississippi/

here is a video of him(I am assuming) competing 5 years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8vibk8An8

Not that an old video tells you anything.

So he is a certified Gracie Jiu-jitsu Instructor from the Gracie Academy in Torrance, CA.

I am sure a whole bunch of people are going to be up in arms about this in the community. Should be interesting to see the reactions.

Bneterasedmynam
8/06/2015 11:33am,
Hahahahaha all bow to your new instructor.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Baby-global.jpg

DCS
8/06/2015 12:10pm,
Can't figure what he needs BJJ for, he is a Shaolin Kempo Karate Black Belt.

Scut Farkus
8/06/2015 1:04pm,
I can't decide if I give a **** about this or not. I wouldn't train under a 16 year old but if people want to, whatever.

The kid has been training a long time, I'm sure. He's probably better than his rank.

Aside from the age, the other issue is that he's a blue belt. Again, I wouldn't train under a blue belt. Not today with all the black belts available. But my first jiu jitsu instructor was a blue belt. That was back when black belts were scarce. I learned a lot from him.

So, I guess I have a hard time caring about this.

The Villain
8/06/2015 2:44pm,
No, the sky is not falling. The drive for standards in the martial arts never came from the Gracie family or from Brazilian Jiujitsu. It came from us the entire time. We assumed their values and standards were in line with ours and projected our own motivations onto their behaviors. We mistook fighting prowess for ethics in business, the arts and life. It's time to stop, take a deep breath, put our feelings aside, and ask ourselves if the Brazilian Jiujitsu leadership really believes what we believe. It's time to stop defending these frauds. Bullies (b) take aim at those they see as beneath them. Bullies (B) take aim at all who deserve it. Are we Bullies? Or just bullies?

Torches are on sale now for the low price of $400, matches for $2,000.

Ke?poFist
8/06/2015 4:19pm,
This is pretty outrageous, and I honestly feel bad for the kid. He had this ego instilled, and these thoughts that he should be running a school put in his head.

This is a problem when a premium is taught on technical knowledge to teach, and not on the ability to develop performance in your students. This kid may know how to do a sweep and an armbar, but when a 200lb dude who wrestled in college steps in the class, he's not going to be equipped to deal with him, let alone teach someone else in his class to deal with his size and base.

In years past, blue and purple belts might have run their own gyms, but under the umbrella and supervision of their black belt instructor who would officiate the ranks. But to teach in another state, with the credentials of "technical blue belt" is just shameful, and will be the undoing of the art we hold dear. This is the same line of thinking that has led to child black belts in Karate and TKD. Performance is what set BJJ apart from the riff raff, but now being able to execute technique on compliant uke's in an internet web promotional video is the gold standard for some.

Shameful.

3moose1
8/06/2015 7:28pm,
Good on the kid for realizing his goal. That is impressive, and I know at 16 I was too busy learning how to do jiu jitsu then worrying about opening my own academy ;)


But shame on Rener Gracie for encouraging an unqualified kid to do something he's unprepared for.


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gregaquaman
8/06/2015 7:50pm,
This guy trains at our gym. And teaches adults on occasion.

http://m.whitsundaytimes.com.au/news/jake-a-real-knock-out-in-rocky/2350448/

http://m.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/pcyc-fighter-claims-title-in-tasmania/2472973/


He was 16 then has had over 30 fights and a couple of titles.

Dude can box.

cualltaigh
8/06/2015 11:00pm,
Not sure why, but this just seemed appropriate.
http://www.bjjproblems.net/img/memes/itsOkayImAblueBelt.jpg

3moose1
8/06/2015 11:41pm,
This guy trains at our gym. And teaches adults on occasion.

http://m.whitsundaytimes.com.au/news/jake-a-real-knock-out-in-rocky/2350448/

http://m.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/pcyc-fighter-claims-title-in-tasmania/2472973/


He was 16 then has had over 30 fights and a couple of titles.

Dude can box.

And yet he isn't the head instructor of his own school...


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K876
8/07/2015 12:12am,
Playing devil's advocate, the classes on his site are primarily aimed towards kids with another 3 hours a week of beginner's adult classes with no competitive sparring. The whole thing seems to be that you can train there together with your kids, so it's not really designed to be churning out elite fighters.

16 is probably too young to run a school, but I think an experienced 16 year old is fine to teach basic techniques to beginners and kids from a set curriculum. That said, it just seems like a bit of a desperate money grab where they are more concerned about opening up new locations rather than providing quality instruction.

Scut Farkus
8/07/2015 8:47am,
but now being able to execute technique on compliant uke's in an internet web promotional video is the gold standard for some.



Wait a second.....is this kid one of those online blue belts? Maybe I missed that from the article. Don't have time to go back and read it right now. If that's the case, it's a completely different problem IMO.

goodlun
8/07/2015 9:43am,
The whole thing seems to be that you can train there together with your kids, so it's not really designed to be churning out elite fighters.


Your arguments only strength the hyperbole about the fall of GJJ.
This place is meant to be a baby sitting McDojo that uses the appeal of GJJ.
Also here it he link to the school itself
http://graciejiujitsumadison.com/

goodlun
8/07/2015 9:44am,
Wait a second.....is this kid one of those online blue belts?
Yes, yes he is, fantastic isn't it?

Scut Farkus
8/07/2015 10:40am,
Yes, yes he is, fantastic isn't it?

I'm not sure that's completely true.

One of his tournament results from NAGA in 2013 list him as affiliated with this school:

http://www.americankillerbees.com/about.html

On the other hand, he doesn't appear to have an extensive tournament history, which is kind of troubling. You'd expect a kid who is in this position to have kicked the **** out of kids all over the place.

Ice Hole
8/07/2015 10:50am,
No, the sky is not falling. The drive for standards in the martial arts never came from the Gracie family or from Brazilian Jiujitsu. It came from us the entire time. We assumed their values and standards were in line with ours and projected our own motivations onto their behaviors. We mistook fighting prowess for ethics in business, the arts and life. It's time to stop, take a deep breath, put our feelings aside, and ask ourselves if the Brazilian Jiujitsu leadership really believes what we believe. It's time to stop defending these frauds. Bullies (b) take aim at those they see as beneath them. Bullies (B) take aim at all who deserve it. Are we Bullies? Or just bullies?

Torches are on sale now for the low price of $400, matches for $2,000.

"On a long enough time line, the quality control of every martial art drops to zero."