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itwasntme
7/01/2013 7:43am,
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/05/paul-hellyer-aliens-ufos-video_n_3390295.html

Former Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer comes out with information(?) about the existence of aliens. Thanks to this insight, we may not shift focus from North West and Jenny from the block shaking it for that dude from Turkmenistan, and on to the real issues that affect not only our neighbors and countrymen, but the galaxy. Like why that tingling sensation in your sphincter may be significant cause to deduce one was abducted out of their single-wide in the middle of the night, only to be returned by morning with a newfound fear of spherical objects.

Bneterasedmynam
7/01/2013 9:58am,
Ok so before I decide wether or not I believe in aliens someone is going to have to explain to me why in the name of the word **** would any alien culture want to come to this shithole of a planet. Seriously earth is like the bad neighborhood of the universe that everyone avoids. We are a bunch of fucked up violent douches armed with nukes. I think any aliens smart enough to figure out a way to travel long distance in space are probably smart enough to avoid earth.

itwasntme
7/01/2013 10:50am,
Ok so before I decide wether or not I believe in aliens someone is going to have to explain to me why in the name of the word **** would any alien culture want to come to this shithole of a planet. Seriously earth is like the bad neighborhood of the universe that everyone avoids. We are a bunch of fucked up violent douches armed with nukes. I think any aliens smart enough to figure out a way to travel long distance in space are probably smart enough to avoid earth.

Who do you think gave us nukes and violence? It sure as **** wasn't God, and it wasn't the result of some woman in a garden on a low-blood-sugar-induced power trip.

Why would they not want to visit us?

Permalost
7/01/2013 11:00am,
I would be pretty surprised if there were no extraterrestrial life out there, but this article is basically that a guy who believes there are multiple alien species on Earth for thousands of years and that Bush was planning an intergalactic war, and, get this, he ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN ALIENS!! Oh, and he's got a new book you should buy too! Oh, and the Bilderbergs and the Trilateral Commission! None of that is a news story. Looks like he's a guy who reads and believes UFO books, and happens to be a politician too. Canadian Jesse Ventura, if you will.

Bneterasedmynam
7/01/2013 11:37am,
Who do you think gave us nukes and violence? It sure as **** wasn't God, and it wasn't the result of some woman in a garden on a low-blood-sugar-induced power trip.

Why would they not want to visit us?

I dunno from what I have read of his autobiography that god feller is pretty fucking violent. I can think of a lot of reasons they wouldn't want to visit us especially the south.

I would be very surprised too if there wasn't at least some life out there, but I would be far more surprised if they had the means or desire to find us.

Permalost
7/01/2013 12:38pm,
Bnet, you're assuming that space aliens will have the same prejudices towards humans that other humans have.

elipson
7/01/2013 1:29pm,
I watched that interview days ago and was very unimpressed. While I believe there is other life out there and that there is a good chance they have been to earth, his guy gave no interesting information.

Considering he was a defense minister, he sure as hell didn't give any interesting information! All he did was give his opinion about **** that people were already talking about on the internet. He hasnt been a defense minister in like 50 years, which makes his opinion a lot less interesting than if Colin Powell had given the same interview.

For someone with this kind of career to speak out like it was a big deal, I figured he would be able to give some first hand information about his time as Defense Minister dealing with aliens, but he doesn't give any of that! He is nothing more than a private citizen who is WAY out of the loop. People have been coming to him with stories about aliens because they know he will believe them. It's confirmation bias; he believes people not because of the validity of their story but because they align with his point of view.

His views on steven hawking and that its a good idea to make contact with aliens is delusional and naive. As my dad once put it, you don't negotiate with a monkey for a banana; why would they negotiate with us?

Why would they be here? Same reason we go watch tribes in the Amazon; curiousity and scientific endevour. That, or the same reason Cortez came to the new world; to find more land, resources, and places to live.

Devil
7/01/2013 1:40pm,
It's almost a certainty that life exists in many places other than our own planet. Considering the size of the known universe, the number of galaxies, the number of solar systems that could potentially support life of some sort, that's fairly easy to deduce.

The specifics are much more difficult, if not impossible to nail down.

Bneterasedmynam
7/01/2013 3:09pm,
we are meerly live stock, food for the gods

When we are fat enough they will come and harvest the crop

Soon

What do you mean WHEN we are fat enough?? :15163


Bnet, you're assuming that space aliens will have the same prejudices towards humans that other humans have.

I never thought of it that way, you make a really good point.

Mr. Machette
7/01/2013 3:14pm,
I've seen **** that defies conventional theories or explinations. I've never met a space man but I've seen craft which some claim do not exist doing things that are officially impossible with our current state of the art (which of course does not represent the actual bleeding edge of flight reserch).

When he says that UFOs are as real as airplanes I can belive that. I've seen it myself. There is **** up in the sky that a lot of people don't want to admit is up there. Some people are even invested in denying UFOs outright.

If there are aliens in these things I can't blame them for avoiding direct contact.

Humans tend to panic at the unkown and try to kill whatever we are afraid of. If the newly dead thing proves to not be much of a threat, we'll try to sexualise it somehow.

So given our tendency to kill and **** any new thing we encounter it's no small wonder that extra terestrials make themselves scarce around humans. We're the cosmic equivalent of those creepy backwards rapists from deliverance.

new2bjj
7/01/2013 4:11pm,
If there are Aliens, they would be on a level so advanced that they would have absolutely nothing to fear from us, we would be on the level of ants, or maybe germs. The distance in space, and the physical laws they would have to overcome make it doubtful that they would have to come in and spy on us, a la Star Trek, etc. Consider how someone studies a beehive, etc.
Still, if you see flying saucers, well hey, who's to argue?

Permalost
7/01/2013 4:56pm,
Still, if you see flying saucers, well hey, who's to argue?
People see all sorts of fantastic things that really should require evidence to believe them. Not believing before evidence is the norm, the ones saying it are the ones stirring the pot (arguing) so its on them to make themselves believable.

new2bjj
7/01/2013 5:29pm,
I was being sarcastic. Too dry, I guess. It is amazing how hard it is to come to grips with how vast our solar system is, and how slow things would travel through it to get from point a to point b. Doesn't mean that there is no life or intelligent life, only that it is probably far, far, away. And I mean really fucking far.

Mr. Machette
7/01/2013 6:10pm,
Speak for youreslf bro

I speak for humanity. You know, the group behind all those emergency room horror stories that begin with experimental sexy time and end with mangled penises and injurious insertions.

itwasntme
7/01/2013 10:50pm,
I dunno from what I have read of his autobiography that god feller is pretty fucking violent. I can think of a lot of reasons they wouldn't want to visit us especially the south.

I didn't realize He wrote it. And yeah, I've heard Southern Illinois can be a bitch.


I would be very surprised too if there wasn't at least some life out there, but I would be far more
surprised if they had the means or desire to find us.

Why would you assume their agenda is different than ours?

W. Rabbit
7/02/2013 12:56am,
The most likely extraterrestrial life is the same stuff we see on Earth (since we've already identified that kind of life is possible).

If there is a world like Earth out there somewhere that is in the Goldilocks zone and has all the right elements, DNA and evolution should work the same there as it did here... all it takes to create the entire evolutionary path from primordial goo to humans.

Other types of more exotic extra-Solar life? Maybe it lives in the "dark matter", and consumes "dark energy". Your guess is as good as mine.

Paul Hellyer, on the other hand, is a fucking nutcase.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/03/paul_hellyer_defends_aliens_after_stephen_hawkings _warning.html



Former federal defence minister Paul Hellyer, 86, believes not only that aliens have visited Earth but also that they have contributed greatly to human technological advances.

So he can’t quite understand why the world renowned astrophysicist views them with such trepidation; Hawking recently warned that malevolent aliens could lead to the destruction of humanity.

The longtime cabinet minister accuses Hawking of spreading misinformation about extraterrestrials.

“I think he’s indulging in some pretty scary talk there that I would have hoped would not come from someone with such an established stature,” Hellyer said in an interview.

“I think it’s really sad that a scientist of his repute would contribute to what I would consider more misinformation about a vast and very important subject.”

Hawking speculates in a new documentary that most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes, or small animals — but he adds that advanced life forms may be “nomads, looking to conquer and colonize” new planets.