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Jshin
6/13/2013 2:36pm,
Hey everyone,

I'm just checking on a school called ATD MMA in Beverly, MA. I found this by a facebook post on Joe Lauzon's wall. There is a guy on the thread named "Joe Boston" telling Joe that he's cutting weight all wrong and being a very strong keyboard warrior. I found out that he trains at ATD MMA (is in the instructor in fact). Under his credentials it says that he is a "4th degree black belt". The whole thing is fishy...

http://www.atdmma.com/americantotaldefense.html

"Sensei Louf has studied martial arts since he was 7yrs old. Moved to Miami/Fort Lauderdale area where he worked at some of the best schools in the business like Black Belt Champions & American Top Team where he studied under great martial artist Ricardo Liborio. He studied Muay-Thai under Guru Master Toddy. Sensei held the ISKA Featheweight Kickboxing Title & currently is thinking about a career in MMA. He has 3 black belts in 1st Degree in Tae Kwon Do, 2nd Dan in Aikido, & 4th Degree Black Belt in Okinawan Shorinji-Ryu Kempo Karate. He is Currently on his way to his 4th black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and is a certified personal trainer, dietician, & nutritionist."

Permalost
6/13/2013 2:40pm,
So you've started a thread and you have a list of claims, now you should start doing some research. Look up the orgs, see if he's listed, shoot some emails. MABS threads should have research, not just point everyone in the direction of someone and ask them to do it.

goshinbudoJJ
6/13/2013 3:44pm,
http://www.hotfrog.com/Companies/American-Total-Defense

"I had a friend who went here. Things started out okay, however soon the leader began to be so disrespectful cursing at the students including young children. Eventually it was too much to bare and my friend decided it would be best to respectfully leave and that is when the true abuse began. The leader and his girlfriend began harassing my friend writing her the most insulting things I have ever heard. What kind of way is that to talk to a customer who has paid you for services. Please think twice before joining this place especially if you have young children unless you would like to pay someone to verbally abuse and harass you."

^ red flag

XMA = red flag



Joseph Louf:

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.louf

Joe "Boston":

https://www.facebook.com/joe.boston.92

Same guy. Note the first review on his FB page is from Joe "Boston"


Something not right about this guy.... will keep digging.

goshinbudoJJ
6/13/2013 3:48pm,
Nothing on here the ISKA website about a featherweight championship...

http://www.iskaworldhq.com/index.php?option=com_eventtableedit&view=default&Itemid=270

goshinbudoJJ
6/13/2013 4:05pm,
Sent the following to ISKA Admin in FLA. Hopefully I'll get a response:

Dear Mr. Respold,
I hope this e-mail finds you well. I'm reaching out to you today in an attempt to verify a claim made by Mr. Joseph Louf.
Mr. Louf claims to have held the "ISKA Featherweight Kickboxing Title" at some point in the past, but in doing a web search I am unable to verify this claim. Mr. Louf is not listed anywhere on your site as being a champion or ranked by your organization:
http://www.iskaworldhq.com/index.phpoption=com_eventtableedit&view=default&Itemid=270

I noticed that the amateur champion section of your page is currently under construction. Perhaps Mr. Louf's accomplishments would be listed here?

Mr. Louf's claim can be found here (bottom of the page):
http://www.atdmma.com/americantotaldefense.html

Any assistance you can provide to verify this claim would be greatly appreciated.


Regards

Jshin
6/13/2013 6:34pm,
So you've started a thread and you have a list of claims, now you should start doing some research. Look up the orgs, see if he's listed, shoot some emails. MABS threads should have research, not just point everyone in the direction of someone and ask them to do it.



Sorry I'm a newbie. I started digging into his claims about being a 4th degree BJJ black belt and can't find him under anyone's lineage. Not Ricardo Liborio, I mean if he is rocking a black belt someone somewhere must have given it to him.

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 6:26am,
A Mr. Joseph V. Louf of Salem, MA was arrested for DUI in 2011. Listed as 34 years old at the time. Most likely the same gentleman (he claims to have graduated from Northeastern U in 2000, which would've made him around 22/23 back then).

http://www.salemnews.com/local/x253819072/Police

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 6:37am,
Mr. Louf also claims a past residence in Oakland Park, FL.

Oakland Park is in Broward County.

http://www.sheriff.org/apps/civil_search/details.cfm?casenumber=07-6315

Could also be the same Joseph Louf.

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 6:55am,
I have a good friend that is an NU alumnus. Asked him to check the alumni DB for this guy. Will report back.

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 11:11am,
Sorry I'm a newbie. I started digging into his claims about being a 4th degree BJJ black belt and can't find him under anyone's lineage. Not Ricardo Liborio, I mean if he is rocking a black belt someone somewhere must have given it to him.

I don't think he's claiming 4th degree in BJJ. His punctuation isn't very good in his bio... I think he's claiming that if/when he gets his BJJ BB, it will be his 4th BB earned. I still think claim is BS, but it's possible he's a brown under Liborio. Will e-mail someone over at ATT to verify.

KyoshiConcept
6/14/2013 2:09pm,
Sensei Joseph Louf was granted his black belt at Lavallee's Black Belt Champions. He did not live in Oakland Park, FL. He is from Massachusetts and trained with us in NY. He has a large family. He is a licensed dietician and nutritionist.

KyoshiConcept
6/14/2013 2:16pm,
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MADE UP! Sensei Louf is a VERY easy going gentleman who is great with kids. We hired him from Lavallee's black belt champions just to work in our kids program because he came so highly recommended when working with kids. He has a younger autistic brother, he is an avid autism activist, even teach kids with special needs for free and pays for their equipment out of his own pocket! this link doesn't even exist! what a horrible thing to make up and say about a good man.

hotfrog.com/Companies/American-Total-Defense

"I had a friend who went here. Things started out okay, however soon the leader began to be so disrespectful............"

KyoshiConcept
6/14/2013 2:19pm,
He never claims to be a 4th deg bb in BJJ. he is a 4th degree in ShorinjiRyu Kempo KarateDo. He is a 2nd deg bb in Aikido. and a 1st deg bb in Tae Kwon Do. He is a brown belt in BJJ currently on his way to his bb.

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 3:02pm,
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MADE UP! Sensei Louf is a VERY easy going gentleman who is great with kids. We hired him from Lavallee's black belt champions just to work in our kids program because he came so highly recommended when working with kids. He has a younger autistic brother, he is an avid autism activist, even teach kids with special needs for free and pays for their equipment out of his own pocket! this link doesn't even exist! what a horrible thing to make up and say about a good man.

hotfrog.com/Companies/American-Total-Defense

"I had a friend who went here. Things started out okay, however soon the leader began to be so disrespectful............"


Coincidentally, it would appear as though this page has been taken down. I should've taken a screen capture.

It's great that you think highly of Mr. Louf, ideally all of these investigations end up with the person being vindicated. I would like for that to be the case here as well.

But not everyone thinks so highly of him:(http://www.thinklocal.com/AmericanTotalDefense-18032015.html)

Note the 4th review (which I have screen capped should it disappear).

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-louf/17/19/4b9

You say that Joe did not live in Florida, but according to his LinkedIn page (which I am assuming is him since the pic looks very much like his pics on his FB page), he was in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area, which is in Broward County.

It is possible that the restraining order was for another Joseph Louf.

On Joseph's FB page, he also claims to have attended Nova Southeastern University, which is also in Florida....

Are you asserting that Joseph Louf was never in Florida?

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 3:09pm,
Since it seems you know Mr. Louf, it would be great if you could bring this thread to his attention so that he may clear the air around some of his claims.

All anyone on this forum is concerned with is how he attained the ranks he has claimed and when/where did he win the ISKA Featherweight Kickboxing championship.

By leaving his bio vague, he has invited this type of questioning.

It might not hurt for you to state how you know him and what art you have trained with him in.

Everyone on this forum will be skeptical of someone that signs up and jumps on an investigatory thread defending the person being questioned.

Clearly, there are some questions to be answered regarding ATD MMA. I will be the first to admit I'm mistaken should evidence of Mr. Louf's claims be presented.

goshinbudoJJ
6/14/2013 3:13pm,
I also find it highly suspicious that you claim he received his BB from Lavalle's Black Belt Champions, but that he has never been in Oakland Park, FL when, in fact, that school is in Oakland Park, FL....

http://www.usablackbeltchampions.net/#overview

LaVallee's USA Black Belt Champions
1425 E. Commercial Blvd.
Oakland Park, FL 33334
(954) 302-3493

Do you see why someone might find your assertions suspicious?