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Footclansoldier
4/20/2004 5:58am,
It seems that www.24fightingchickens.com is gone for good.

Shuma-Gorath
4/20/2004 7:34am,
I guess people got sick of Rob waving his dick around in everything from MA discussion to speaker reviews.

"I have extremely fine-tuned ears, almost certainly better than yours, and I know good speakers when I see them. I love my Logitech Z-560's and they are the best things to ever make sound in all of recorded history, and if you don't like them you're probably an idiot or deaf."

Thats how every article on that site went, and I'm not even touching on all the articles he had to take down where he was downright racist. Those disappeared after I sent him some hate mail that didn't make his Hate Mail section, probably because it was not only true but contained a pretty nasty image to express my disgust.

The site would have been good if Rob could get over himself, but I laughed a little inside when he started asking for donations and compared it to a tip jar on a piano. Sure, it's a tip jar on a piano alright; a piano being played by a pianist who stops and lectures you about how he is the best piano player ever between every song and who occasionally stops between bars to tell you that you will never hope to play piano as well as he does.

Wesker
4/20/2004 7:40am,
Sounds like the title of a cheesy 70s kung fu film.

Kultra
4/20/2004 7:57am,
Originally posted by Wesker
Sounds like the title of a cheesy 70s kung fu film.
or a good porn film!

...what?

WhiteShark
4/20/2004 8:06am,
Originally posted by Kultra
or a good porn film!

...what?

Then it would be:

24fappingroosters.com

Furtry
4/20/2004 2:47pm,
That poem is so narcissistic. I'm sorry I never met him:p:D

TaeBo_Master
4/20/2004 2:50pm,
Fucking losers.

MM4Guy
4/20/2004 2:51pm,
The site was pretty much a breeding ground for some random idiot's views. I loved his open mind though.

liuzg150181
4/20/2004 8:35pm,
No~~~~!!!
My favourite site gone forever~~~~!!!

albert
4/20/2004 8:44pm,
The site would have been good if Rob could get over himself, but I laughed a little inside when he started asking for donations and compared it to a tip jar on a piano. Sure, it's a tip jar on a piano alright; a piano being played by a pianist who stops and lectures you about how he is the best piano player ever between every song and who occasionally stops between bars to tell you that you will never hope to play piano as well as he does.

LOL @ the piano analogy. But I think he had a few good articles (I only read the site a few times). One I read was on bowing, and I think his thesis was just that bowing shouldn't be a big deal at the dojo, because it's merely a cultural transplant functionally equivalent to a handshake. I agree with this.
I also read another article on "Osu." I just thought it was interesting because I had heard the term used but didn't know what it meant. Maybe he was feeding the audience bullshit information..and perhaps looking back he was being racist. I think he said the Japanese themselves don't know how to use the term, so it is ambiguous. But as an outside Western observer, how the **** would he know? But I still liked reading about the term and its supposed connotations and what not. Don't really care the site is gone though.

stillkicking
4/25/2004 10:10am,
Damn it...

That site was brilliant. The author that site was a straight-shooting, thoughtful and experienced man. To say it was just some wanker spouting off is quite foolish.

It's a pity that he didn't allow someone to publish his "Mu" articles elsewhere on the web.
It's a cryin' shame.
SK

Tote
4/25/2004 1:19pm,
I'm sad that 24fc is gone. Rob was a great writer and while I didn't like mr redmond I agreed with him on most things. I hope that he writes a book besides the one about his trip to japan. I will buy both if he does. I just hope he can keep his ego aside.

KirkSpockMcCoy
2/21/2007 11:40am,
Hi Guys,

I would say 24 Fighting Chickens (www.24fightingchickens.com) (http://www.24fightingchickens.com%29/), popular karate website, is a lot of crap. Rob Redmond heavily edits all the replies to his articles, so that it appears as if he always wins the argument. I have posted very good points contrary to his views and he deletes them without warning, in order to avoid his embarrassment.

I also wonder about whether he really knows what he is talking about, because oftentimes his thoughts seem to come from someone who isn't even proficient enough to deserve a blackbelt. One example is his lack of understanding of the use of hikite, he thinks it has no value and only represents pulling the opponent towards you, forgetting that it plays a strong role in the overall rotation of the torso. Also, Rob has NEVER posted anything on his site to demonstrate that he has good karate skills. He has never posted himself in action, whether in photos or video doing some basic technique or kata. All he does is talk karate but there is no demonstration that he can do as well as talk. If ever you meet this guy in person, I bet if you have the chance to see it, he probably can't even do his basics properly. Feel free to kick his diabetic ass.

Also, it is clear to me now that Rob engages in Shotokan bashing just to gain attention for himself, maybe even to earn extra income. Recently he has been heavily promoting his 'Kata' book, a pictureless e-book expensive at 25 dollars! Pretty expensive consdidering he incurs no publishing and papaer costs! This guy is full of ****.

kensei
3/07/2007 2:13pm,
Hey gang
it is a shame that Rob took down his site. I have had a tone of fights with him over his strict anti JKA stance and Yes, he can be caustic and rude if you dont tow the RR line. But the most agravating thing about his site was he often had some truth to his rants. I learned alot from his site, even if some of it was dispite him! He is a great writer with mad skills at the key board, but he does place himself up on a ivory tower at times. I know alot more about him than he knows and he is a good guy, not a fraud, but perhaps a bit self pumped up. To answer KSM, He did do fair Karate and never said that he was a master. he uses different definitions of "expert" and yah, he takes advantage of the undereducated to create a 24FC following. But most of it is not crap. it is just the harsh truth posted on a web site owned by a disenfranchised student that did not like the politics around him. i would say that if you were to read his site and try and figure out his purpose it would be, In my words not Robs, to create a counter balance to the Pro JKA propaganda....but Rob does go over the edge at times. he is only human you know!

Kensei

Elky
3/07/2007 2:34pm,
Hey gang
it is a shame that Rob took down his site. I have had a tone of fights with him over his strict anti JKA stance and Yes, he can be caustic and rude if you dont tow the RR line. But the most agravating thing about his site was he often had some truth to his rants. I learned alot from his site, even if some of it was dispite him! He is a great writer with mad skills at the key board, but he does place himself up on a ivory tower at times. I know alot more about him than he knows and he is a good guy, not a fraud, but perhaps a bit self pumped up. To answer KSM, He did do fair Karate and never said that he was a master. he uses different definitions of "expert" and yah, he takes advantage of the undereducated to create a 24FC following. But most of it is not crap. it is just the harsh truth posted on a web site owned by a disenfranchised student that did not like the politics around him. i would say that if you were to read his site and try and figure out his purpose it would be, In my words not Robs, to create a counter balance to the Pro JKA propaganda....but Rob does go over the edge at times. he is only human you know!

Kensei
Hi Kensei - this is an ancient thread. Rob's re-opened 24FC as a blog with some of the old content intact. KSM just re-opened the thread so he could rant about Rob.

kensei
3/07/2007 3:19pm,
I read threw the thread and the other one that he was writing on. and I felt it important to comment. Robs new "blog" style forum is alot easier for him to handle I guess. And Yah, he does rule over it as a dictator would, but hell...its his web site. If he wants to put that Funakoshi was a circuls clown he could!

Anyways, I saw alot of things in the other thread. First off KSM got sandbagged a bit and upset, which is fair...he started loosing an argument and went down fighting. By the way, you could still argue that Rob was wrong in things that he said even if he was a third dan! But I think Rob has provided enough to show his rank...does not mean he is right in what he is saying. I have a favorite saying "even monkeys fall from trees". Or even experts can be wrong...even if they are amazing writers. Redmond is the real deal, he is not always right, but he is the real deal!
Kensei