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Johnny Y.
12/31/2011 6:22pm,
Besides the sport-aspect, and a way to stay fit doing something fun, what is the justifiable utility of martial arts in today's world?

Suppose someone asked you why they should study judo, MMA, whatever, instead of just buying a taser, stun gun, pepper spray . . ., what would you tell them?

The best response I can think of is you always have martial arts. Little technological devices can be taken away from you, aren't legal to carry in some localities, and can fail. They augment capability, not replace.

Kovacs
12/31/2011 6:32pm,
You've got in it one. You're always 'armed' if you keep you're training up. Avoiding trouble spots or being protected by other means is always a good idea but you never know, fights can crop up in weird places and its good to be prepared.

judojeff
12/31/2011 6:57pm,
Basically what you said but I would add that should the worst happen you would have a skill set to fall back on that hopefully you will feel confident in and be able to come out on top, even if on top just means you were able to disengage and run like hell.

^Really just a rewording of what has already been said.

Tom Kagan
12/31/2011 7:21pm,
Doing MA for "practical reasons" is the most limiting way to study... not to mention it's fucking boring.

There is no practical aspect to martial arts... except to those who are paranoid and play "what if?" games just dying for an excuse to go bezerk on someone.

crappler
12/31/2011 8:24pm,
Tom is correct. Statistically speaking, it's pretty much useless. Gotten me in more trouble than anything else.

alex
12/31/2011 9:24pm,
yeah really the chances of getting into a situation where you are gonna use MA is almost nil unless you go looking for trouble. people who do it solely for self defense are fucking weirdos.

Vieux Normand
12/31/2011 10:33pm,
Guess I'm a fucking weirdo.

My hobby is wilderness hiking.

Being a complete failure on the professional level, I have--for far too many decades--had to fall back on the philosophically-rarified domain of nightclub security in order to finance my hobby (and do other irrelevant things like pay the bills).

In order to be effective at that, to prepare for those times when other measures didn't work and physical intervention was necessary--and since weapons aren't generally allowed to doormen--I've trained in MA.

The fact that such training has allowed me to get home to my wife, after dealing with a full spectrum of combative idiots, with only minor scars over the years is, of course, utterly irrelevant: when training for self-defense is pointless, it's pointless.

I've obviously wasted much of my time, and am very much ashamed to be wasting anyone else's. Do not read this post.

Tom Kagan
12/31/2011 11:20pm,
The fact that such training has allowed me to get home to my wife, after dealing with a full spectrum of combative idiots, with only minor scars over the years is, of course, utterly irrelevant: when training for self-defense is pointless, it's pointless.

I've obviously wasted much of my time, and am very much ashamed to be wasting anyone else's. Do not read this post.

Yes, it is a waste of time to think your luck has a point.

alex
1/01/2012 12:04am,
Guess I'm a fucking weirdo.

My hobby is wilderness hiking.

Being a complete failure on the professional level, I have--for far too many decades--had to fall back on the philosophically-rarified domain of nightclub security in order to finance my hobby (and do other irrelevant things like pay the bills).

In order to be effective at that, to prepare for those times when other measures didn't work and physical intervention was necessary--and since weapons aren't generally allowed to doormen--I've trained in MA.

The fact that such training has allowed me to get home to my wife, after dealing with a full spectrum of combative idiots, with only minor scars over the years is, of course, utterly irrelevant: when training for self-defense is pointless, it's pointless.

I've obviously wasted much of my time, and am very much ashamed to be wasting anyone else's. Do not read this post.

dont be fucking pedantic, you do it for your job. that isnt the same thing.

also, hiking is for weirdos

Tom .C
1/01/2012 12:08am,
The most practical reason for doing Judo is that some people on the mat are trying to throw me.

100xobm
1/01/2012 12:31am,
What is the utility of petanque if we aren't french grenadiers?

Fun, that's what.

thrutch
1/01/2012 1:02am,
I do martial arts because I'm a LARPing gimp.

And I get a real buzz off those times when the instructor/other people on the mat look at me like I'm a ***** and say things like "Errr, you're not actually supposed to tap to that."

csharp.negative
1/01/2012 2:03am,
Doing MA for "practical reasons" is the most limiting way to study... not to mention it's fucking boring.

There is no practical aspect to martial arts... except to those who are paranoid and play "what if?" games just dying for an excuse to go bezerk on someone.

Your opinion certainly intrigues me. So what do you study MA for? I'm not one to belittle an argument by saying that you believe that the world is sunshine and lollipops, etc, or put words in your mouth by assuming you call everyone else paranoid, but I've only been in MA for personal study (no tournaments/seminars/etc) for the last 4 and 1/2 years, so I don't have much else to say except that I've studied for personal gain (and the apparently pointless practical reasons). In my opinion we call those who buy guns and guard dogs paranoid, while you and I as martial artists can go out not thinking about the practical reasons, because we know that we can handle the situations that call for the practical reasons. After all, MA stands for Martial Arts, aka warlike arts.

Permalost
1/01/2012 2:14am,
I guess it was an excuse to extend my childhood hobby of fighting imaginary ninjas well into adulthood.

CrackFox
1/01/2012 2:48am,
Your opinion certainly intrigues me. So what do you study MA for? I'm not one to belittle an argument by saying that you believe that the world is sunshine and lollipops, etc, or put words in your mouth by assuming you call everyone else paranoid, but I've only been in MA for personal study (no tournaments/seminars/etc) for the last 4 and 1/2 years, so I don't have much else to say except that I've studied for personal gain (and the apparently pointless practical reasons). In my opinion we call those who buy guns and guard dogs paranoid, while you and I as martial artists can go out not thinking about the practical reasons, because we know that we can handle the situations that call for the practical reasons. After all, MA stands for Martial Arts, aka warlike arts.
If you're into martial arts for "practical reasons", why are you doing hung ga?

Tom Kagan
1/01/2012 9:52am,
So what do you study MA for?

Habit.