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jkd_fighter
11/21/2002 11:51pm,
hey everyone, i noticed that alot of the sport karate dudes do tae kwon do and use kamas. does tkd have kamas? what ould be a good style to lern to use kamas? (i rather not lern from a video)

ATAMAN
11/22/2002 12:07am,
good question

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Nihilanthic
11/22/2002 12:59am,
Last I checked Karate and TKD were "empty hand" styles.

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matzahbal
11/22/2002 1:06am,
Kama's are an Okinawa (sp?) weapon. So just look into Okinawan systems that teach the Kobudo weapons.

http://kobudo.okinawa.free.fr/ - nice site, tells you about the Kobudo weapons.



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gong sau
11/22/2002 1:06am,
Dunno, but I hear it has a garden shovel form...

::Sweet! Nailed Karate and TKD with that one!:: :P

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Moogong77
11/22/2002 2:04am,
Because Okianawa influenced Japan's martial arts and Japan influenced Korea's martial arts, the kamas are pretty common in many TKD schools.

Mercurius
11/22/2002 2:25am,
Kama are a bullshit sport karate weapon meant to cut grass. 90% of the places you even see a kama hanging on the wall at will teach them for this purpose.

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jkd_fighter
11/22/2002 2:33am,
ya but that bullshit sport karate could land you a job in the film industry.

Mercurius
11/22/2002 3:09am,
Just like Jean Claude Van Damme, huh?

They couldn't pay me enough money to be such an ass.

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jkd_fighter
11/22/2002 3:51am,
not like van damme, he's a fag. iam talking about larry lam, mike chat and people from team pual mitchel.

Miguksaram
11/22/2002 3:25pm,
Sorry, but TKD does not do kamas. If you see kamas at a TKD school most likely they are a sport school or the instructor happened to learn kamas from a different style. WTF, and I believe ITF, schools don't teach these as part of the curriculm. The reason why you see sport TKD people with the kamas is because it is a popular weapon for competition. Reason being is because it is small and light and easier to do all the fancy moves.

Jeremy M. Talbott
http://www.homestead.com/koreanma/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/jns1994/MSA.html

Mercurius
11/22/2002 3:54pm,
I prefer Team Fairtex to Team Paul Mitchell.

****, let Team Paul Mitchell keep their fucking kamas. See how much good it does them when they're crying on the ground because their femur has been snapped in two.

"God is dead." -Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead." -God

Miguksaram
11/22/2002 5:28pm,
Fine Merc, but that has nothing to do with the question or the topic at hand. I think we have already established that Fairtex would rip TPM a new asshole on another thread. I agree with you that they would. However that is a whole other topic. We are discussing sport TKD and the use of Kamas. I know you are cringing and puking at the thought but hey...just switch to another topic. :)

Jeremy M. Talbott
http://www.homestead.com/koreanma/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/jns1994/MSA.html

axekick
11/25/2002 4:41am,
The kamas are used by some martial artists to exercise awareness of your hand position and location. If you have ever used them to perform a kata, you learned very quickly where your limbs, wrists and arm positions are at all times. You guys talk about these weapons like they were created from a demented dream experienced by a martial artist wannabe. If you will do a little digging, you will find that the kamas, along with the nun-chakus, short sticks and other traditional weapons, were actually farm tools that were used for harvesting. When one uses a tool all day, it is only natural that you become very proficient in handling it. The tools were also used as weapons when needed, and were eventually deemed a martial arts weapon. All of these weapons have a purpose which is not always obvious.

Michael
11/25/2002 6:30am,
I used to compete on the circuit with Butch Togisala. That guy could move the Kamas. From the words of the experts (TKD background), no they learned them for the flash and tournament.

Miguksaram
11/25/2002 3:24pm,
AxeKick, You are right they are farm tools. In Korean they are called 'not'. My in-laws are farmers up in the Paegun mountains so I have seen many of these. However, I have yet to see one with four holes in it. Nor have I seen my 60 year old father-in-law break out in a form with one. When I picked it up an started doing some moves with it, they basicly laughed and told my wife that I watch too many kung fu movies.

Anyway, back to the point, these weapons were introduced as "traditional" weapons via Okinawa karate, not Korean TKD. TKD never had this as part of it curriculm.

Jeremy M. Talbott
http://www.homestead.com/koreanma/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/jns1994/MSA.html