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LLL
3/30/2004 5:03am,
http://www.maximonline.com/sports/articles/article_3287.html (bottom of the page)


"Stop a Rabid Rottweiler
If an attack-trained Rott is racing in for the kill, wrap your jacket (or whatever’s handy) around your arm and hold it out to him, away from your body. “In most cases the dog will take whichever arm is offered and clamp onto it,” says John Perkins, a retired police detective and forensics expert. “Once he’s latched on, fight off the pain and fight back.” You need to hurt the dog as fast as possible before it gets you off balance and takes you to the ground. “Start kicking its testicles and stomping on its paws while using your other hand to jam your fingers into its eyes,” says Perkins. Repeat as necessary until it turns tail and runs."

LLL
3/30/2004 5:04am,
RaBid I mean... is there any way to edit titles...?

SLJ
3/30/2004 5:27am,
Those sound like some lethal str33t tactics there. "Gouge" the dog's eyes and hit his testicles, OK.

Azteca
3/30/2004 7:38am,
Did this dude even consider on what if the rottweiler is charging at you? Its not like the rott is just going to saunter over and gently clamp his jaws to your arm hes gonna try to knock you down and rip your neck out and not play patty cake.

SLJ
3/30/2004 8:14am,
I'm sure he'd just knee it as it shot in for the takedown.:rolleyes:

Matt W.
3/30/2004 8:39am,
That sounds pretty much like how he advises people to fight grapplers too.

Matt

SLJ
3/30/2004 8:56am,
Matt, and it's got just as much chance of working.

LOL at your sig, I wish I was cool enough. Maybe one day I'll make it.

Onecardshort
3/30/2004 9:00am,
another perspective on dog fighting (pinched from aikiweb)

Dog defence link (http://www.dogproblems.com/art48.htm): his own site is very self-promotional to say the least - do not listen to any of his video clips - but he does at least seem to have some experience...

Matt W.
3/30/2004 9:05am,
LOL at your sig, I wish I was cool enough. Maybe one day I'll make it.

I got a kick out of it. Though, in my case, it's certainly true.

:D

Matt

Shuma-Gorath
3/30/2004 9:13am,
Just kick the damn thing like a football as it runs in. The arm shield is a good idea, but only if you can give it something to bite that you can then detach, which hopefully ISN'T your forearm.

Or, I don't know, RUN and get to high ground?

strats36
3/30/2004 9:29am,
Seriously, everytime someone brings up fighting a dog I have to post this link. Read this article!

http://www.realfighting.com/0702/jmayorframe.html

You're not rough housing with your family pet!

Sample:

"First - If you ever come across any martial arts instructor who claims he can successfully defend himself from a serious dog attack, do yourself a favor and run for your life. This is a dangerous person and he is teaching dangerous concepts. The reality is, all you can do is to attempt to escape without too much damage. "

El Tejon
3/30/2004 10:10am,
I did this in October of 1996. I used a Glock M23.

Nid
3/30/2004 10:49am,
If an attack-trained Rott is racing in for the kill,

Well an attack-trained Rottweiller probably won't be doing that. See, it's trained.


wrap your jacket (or whatever’s handy) around your arm and hold it out to him, away from your body. “In most cases the dog will take whichever arm is offered and clamp onto it,”

Yeah, a trained dog. Not neccesarily the curs guarding crack houses or whatever. And how does one find the time to get the jacket around the arm anyway? What the **** else would be handy? Thanks John.


“Once he’s latched on, fight off the pain and fight back.” You need to hurt the dog as fast as possible before it gets you off balance and takes you to the ground. “Start kicking its testicles and stomping on its paws while using your other hand to jam your fingers into its eyes,” says Perkins. Repeat as necessary until it turns tail and runs."

Matt is right. Sounds like his grappling defense, and I'm sure it's just as easy to pull off.

Has he been in hundreds of life-or-death situations with dogs too? There ARE people who have (maybe not hundreds), and guess what? They DON'T offer this advice.

Cracker
3/30/2004 11:06am,
One thing about dealing with Rottweillers is understanding thier motivations to attack. They are quite protective of thier home territory and the individuals they've come to recognize as family.

Don't enter thier territory uninvited or escorted by thier family.
Don't behave in an aggressive fashion to thier family.
Don't try to touch them, pet them, or push them around unless they accept you as family.

If you do any of those things you are likely to get bit. It is rare that a Rott will all out attack you unless you seriously push one of the above issues.
A Rott bite is to be feared. If it's anything beyond the "warning shot across the bow" it can mean permant injury, and in some cases be life threatening as thier jaws are exremely powerful.

I have a 1 year old German Shepard/Rottweiller mix. He's getting pretty big, and he's confident. I don't think that poking him in the eyes is going to stop him if he means to hurt. But, I'm not going to test it out either. At any rate, I watch him very closely and spend many hours working with him so that I recognize his behavior and he follows my commands. He's a great dog, and he's always up for a nice game of "Stranger in the Yard".

Nid
3/30/2004 11:11am,
Of course, he assumes the dog will HAVE testacles.

Talk about a telling assumption. Actually, it's more like wishful thinking.

WhiteShark
3/30/2004 11:12am,
The best part about that whole quote is that Rottweillers typically are NOT the prefered dog to train as attack dogs. At least say German Shepard or maybe Doberman Pinscher.