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Holy Moment
10/16/2011 9:32pm,
Sometimes a person enters the ring when he has no business being there. I'm not talking about fighters who are simply overmatched, but people who have little training that's actually relevant to fighting. Fred Ettish is a well-known example:

http://mmatrainingworkoutsonline.com/mma-fight-videos/ufc-2/johnny-rhodes-vs-fred-ettish/

In this thread you will post videos of untrained marks either getting mauled by professional fighters or struggling to muster the strength to defeat someone equally inept. I'll get the ball rolling:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9r2GAAaiKs

This is a young Ben Rothwell beating who appears to Andy Milonakis. Jeremy Horn is referee.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPgiy_Opec

Man tits + Red Sweats = The pinnacle of MMA fashion


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xlR__fVoXI

This is a fight between a professional wrestler and an amateur boxer. Although they come from different backgrounds, they do have one thing in common in that they don't know how to fight on the ground.

Vince Tortelli
10/16/2011 9:38pm,
Man, twenty years down the road and it is still Fred Ettish, not Teila Tuli, not the Texas ninja who was crushed by Patrick Smith, not Dos Caras Jr. (who had his first fight against a prime Mirko Filpovic, while wearing his Lucha mask) who is the standard for terrible performances in MMA.

It's even sadder because Fred saw the light after his fight, became a respectable coach/trainer under Pat Miletech, and has managed to win at least one professional fight since then.


http://youtu.be/sVL8jdKDXAQ

searcher66071
10/16/2011 9:43pm,
I have no videos, but I get to hear about the way to underprepared fighters all of the time in BJJ class. One of the purple belts is a referee for many of the local MMA events and he has given us some crazy stories about guys getting in the ring with 2-3 months of total training time. He has said that almost all of them get mauled in the first minute of the fight.

Holy Moment
10/16/2011 9:48pm,
Man, twenty years down the road and it is still Fred Ettish, not Teila Tuli, not the Texas ninja who was crushed by Patrick Smith, not Dos Caras Jr. (who had his first fight against a prime Mirko Filpovic, while wearing his Lucha mask) who is the standard for terrible performances in MMA.

It's Ettish's karate background that made him the go-to example of early UFC guys who got thrashed. He was kind of the sacrificial lamb for traditional martial arts.

By the way, Dos Caras Jr. actually made his debut against Kengo Watanabe, and he won that fight by breaking his arm with a belly-to-belly suplex. Caras had a solid Greco-Roman background and trained with Marco Ruas. He wasn't unprepared for MMA in general, just greatly overmatched by Cro Cop.


It's even sadder because afterwards Fred saw the light after his fight, became a respectable coach/trainer under Pat Miletech, and has managed to win at least one professional fight since then.

One of the best comebacks in MMA, and I mean that without sarcasm. Ettish must have felt a huge weight come off of him after all those years.

Vince Tortelli
10/16/2011 9:55pm,
Huh. I must have misheard Bas and Quadros during the video...or perhaps they said it was his first fight in PRIDE? I do remember it was stated he took the fight on three weeks notice, one begins to wonder if he'd angered his management/coach around the time they were offered that fight.

There was an "MMA event" that took place at a cage in a guy's garage way out in the sticks of Mississippi. A friend of mine has the entire thing on video, but he refuses to allow me to copy and distribute it, which is a shame because the world needs to see these videos.

Highlights include a fifty year old man wearing blue jean shorts and 14 oz boxing gloves defeating an 18 year old in football pants due to the younger guy gassing out, and a Tae Kwon Do practicioner missing a flying side kick and getting grabbed into a rear naked choke as he flew past the other guy.

Post Script:
Found the video of Dos Caras's first fight! The finish is pretty nasty looking...the other guy tries to post his arm out and the combined weight of both fighters lands on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx-yP_wDBwA

Holy Moment
10/16/2011 9:58pm,
Huh. I must have misheard Bas and Quadros during the video...or perhaps they said it was his first fight in PRIDE? I do remember it was stated he took the fight on three weeks notice, one begins to wonder if he'd angered his management/coach around the time they were offered that fight.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx-yP_wDBwA


There was an "MMA event" that took place at a cage in a guy's garage way out in the sticks of Mississippi. A friend of mine has the entire thing on video, but he refuses to allow me to copy and distribute it, which is a shame because the world needs to see these videos.

Highlights include a fifty year old man wearing blue jean shorts and 14 oz boxing gloves defeating an 18 year old in football pants due to the younger guy gassing out, and a Tae Kwon Do practicioner missing a flying side kick and getting grabbed into a rear naked choke as he flew past the other guy.

Even though you don't have the video, you did remind me of another MMA event that took place without a venue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=871xK9DcJvI

Vince Tortelli
10/16/2011 10:01pm,
Your Youtubeness (Youtuboka? Youtubism? You Kwon Tube?) is better than mine. For that, I salute you.

Re: Second video:
The fool! Didn't he realize that any time you fight a judo person, you need to be stripped to the waist?

And at least they saved the picture frame.

Holy Moment
10/16/2011 10:13pm,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFeX2MyVIKU

A fight between Taekwondo stylist Leonard Basso (Who would later lose to one Wayne Fisher via groin strikes) and bouncer Robert Kaialua (Who would later be arrested for murder and racketeering).

Lindz
10/16/2011 10:21pm,
Just in case anyone reading the thread was raised by wolves and this is their first ever excursion onto the intarwebs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tVTuNZ3Zw


Never noticed this before but I think Travis has a limp as he's walking to the cage.

Rivington
10/16/2011 10:25pm,
There was an "MMA event" that took place at a cage in a guy's garage way out in the sticks of Mississippi. A friend of mine has the entire thing on video, but he refuses to allow me to copy and distribute it, which is a shame because the world needs to see these videos.

Highlights include a fifty year old man wearing blue jean shorts and 14 oz boxing gloves defeating an 18 year old in football pants due to the younger guy gassing out, and a Tae Kwon Do practicioner missing a flying side kick and getting grabbed into a rear naked choke as he flew past the other guy.


And that's how the governor of Mississippi is elected!

Vince Tortelli
10/16/2011 10:37pm,
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-politics/2010/09/08/haley-barbour909x-inset-community.jpg

Screw your football pants, and your Tae Kwon Do! Haley Barbour shows no mercy! HALEY SMASH!!!

Holy Moment
10/16/2011 10:43pm,
Never noticed this before but I think Travis has a limp as he's walking to the cage.

That's not surprising. Fulton probably had a sanctioned fight on the drive over to the arena, and another in the locker-room before he walked out to the cage.

Actually, according to his pro record, he had just lost a ten-minute fight in Brazil three days prior to fighting Bullock. And before that, he had five other fights in the same month. That's seven fights in the November of 1998.

Edit: And those are just the one's we know about.

SCInferno
10/16/2011 11:30pm,
I like how whenever someone who is untrained in grappling is in a less than ideal position, they seem to imagine they're riding a bicycle.

Omega Supreme
10/17/2011 12:07am,
Why isn't the Art Jimmerson fight used as the best example over Ettish..Fags.

The_Beak
10/17/2011 12:29am,
The rebel fury fight league


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZCkp1CvQM


www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTOzCwYpgnE

If your thinking it looks like they were just asking bar patrons if they wanted to fight on the card that night, you would be correct.

When I showed up to the bar the guy running the thing asked me if I wanted to fight. Apparently only three Heavyweights showed up on time and they were a little desperate.

hapkido_keith
10/17/2011 12:55am,
So I have to ask, would you say I was grossly underprepared, or simply outmatched? (I wasn't knocked out, my corner threw the towel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gL_DOPp7o0