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Super8astard
9/25/2011 3:48pm,
So UFC 139 is gonna have Cung Le fighting Wanderlei Silva. Not sure what to think about that. Sounds like an awesome fight, but it also sounds like another concussion and KO loss for Silva. Kind of ironic how such a vicious attacker like Wand has a plastic chin.

For Cung Le to finally make his way to the UFC at this stage of his life, they must've offered him hella cash since he can make plenty doing crap movies.

I don't see much of a future for either guy, and despite my skepticism, I'll be looking forward to this fight. I'll be looking forward to whole show since the Rua vs Hendo fight is headlining. Than one should be F-ING brutal.

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 3:55pm,
You think Silva will lose?

devilboy7778
9/25/2011 4:08pm,
You think Silva will lose?
Hell yeah Silva's going to lose

Super8astard
9/25/2011 4:09pm,
I think the likely hood of him getting KFTO is almost assured against anyone who is not a pure grappler. But I also think Le will crack under a Silva assult. The last time he got charged he got stopped, and after a few losses, Silva goes psycho. Jardine still has nightmares...

Basically I'm so conflicted on this that the only thing I can say for sure is I can't wait for this card.

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 4:10pm,
Agreed. Besides, Cung Le aint so young either, and he's been chilling with his film buddies.

Super8astard
9/25/2011 4:12pm,
Yup. That's why I wonder what kind of offer the UFC must've made him. He's what, 39 now?

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 4:31pm,
Yup. That's why I wonder what kind of offer the UFC must've made him. He's what, 39 now?
39 and his last fight was over a year ago, he did admittedly win by TKO.

His MMA record is 7-1

Kickboxing 17-0

Wanderlei is younger (35), a more well rounded fighter and has a shitload more experience in MMA at high levels.

Super8astard
9/25/2011 4:57pm,
I don't know that I would give Wand the check mark on more well rounded. Le is a very good wrestler, and quite strong. He has great sweeps and takedowns/suplex, and has a nasty heel pick, which Wand's style makes him vulnerable to. Besides that, I really doubt either guy has any intention of anything non-striking.

Wand is younger, but hasn't aged well. Bad knees and hips, multiple concussions, and the wear and tear that comes with his style. Le has none of that.

As for Le's experience, it's definitely a matter of quantity over quality, both in San Shou and mma. Silva's muder rush might be too much for him.

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 5:03pm,
I just think that Cung Le as a fighter is less tested on the ground than Silva. The level of competition between them is too great.

Super8astard
9/25/2011 5:08pm,
I just think that Cung Le as a fighter is less tested on the ground than Silva. The level of competition between them is too great.

No arguing that. Silva is known for catching kicks, Le may just throw one too many and get trampled.

Lindz
9/25/2011 5:31pm,
No arguing that. Silva is known for catching kicks, Le may just throw one too many and get trampled.

ON the other hand sanda has elevated kick catching to a high art form.

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 5:32pm,
ON the other hand sanda has elevated kick catching to a high art form.

Im still sticking with Wand. He has a solid ground game thats been tested at high levels. If Cung Le does overwhelm him, i'd expect him to take it to ground.

Super8astard
9/25/2011 5:41pm,
ON the other hand sanda has elevated kick catching to a high art form.

Yeah but is this fight going to come down who's kickcatch-fu is stronger?


Im still sticking with Wand. He has a solid ground game thats been tested at high levels. If Cung Le does overwhelm him, i'd expect him to take it to ground.

Le likes to stay back and pick his shots until the KO is open, and with his advanced age, I doubt he will want to get crazy with a crazy **** like Wand...

Although, he does have 1 punch KO power, and Wand a 1 punch KO chin. If Le manages to overwhelm him, I agree he will go to the ground, but he'll be there by himself.

The Juggernoob
9/25/2011 5:45pm,
Yeah but is this fight going to come down who's kickcatch-fu is stronger?



Le likes to stay back and pick his shots until the KO is open, and with his advanced age, I doubt he will want to get crazy with a crazy **** like Wand...

Although, he does have 1 punch KO power, and Wand a 1 punch KO chin. If Le manages to overwhelm him, I agree he will go to the ground, but he'll be there by himself.

When you say he has a 1 punch KO chin, go have a look at who has put him out. I dont think Cung Le has power comparable to those guys.

Lindz
9/25/2011 5:47pm,
Yeah but is this fight going to come down who's kickcatch-fu is stronger?


I don't think so. I'm just not expecting Kung to be vulnerable to getting his kicks caught like you suggested.

Super8astard
9/25/2011 5:51pm,
When you say he has a 1 punch KO chin, go have a look at who has put him out. I dont think Cung Le has power comparable to those guys.

Normally I would agree with that, but that's not the only factor. After your first concussion, the second comes easier, as does the third. Le has, or at least had, extremely under-rated power. Wand shouldn't take the gamble that being 39 has taken enough power from Le to not be a 1 punch threat, and should be relying heavily on defense and not at all on his ability to take punishment no matter who he fights.