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CheeksWWAC
6/02/2011 3:49am,
So I got sold by a discussion on the importance of competition in BJJ in another thread and have decided to strap on a sack and compete. That being said, everyone at my gym that competes cuts serious weight. Now Im a complete newb and have some need for advice on the subject. Whats the benefit of cutting weight in Jits. Pros and Cons. Is there anyone that doesnt cut weight and competes? Im really short (5'5") and my walk-around weight is 165lbs and the most I could realistically get down to in 3 months is 135lbs. I will most likely be putting on Blue belt before competition.

Super Feather up to 141.0 lbs
Feather up to 154.5 lbs
Light up to 167.5 lbs

DKJr
6/02/2011 3:54am,
Only cut about 8-10lbs. Usually what you can lose by not eating for 24 hours and not drinking for 12. I've done 15lbs weight cuts before in 2 days it's rough and even if you do make it you're tired as balls. Best to plan two months ahead to supplement your bjj training with high rep low weight lifting. Lots of Cleans, Snatches, OH press, lunges, squats, pull ups, etc. Then just gradually lower your calorie intake.


TLDR Version. Cut out bad food, drink lots of water, weight lift, train hard.

Prince Vlad
6/02/2011 4:28am,
My last competition I cut too much and was completely gassed after my first 5 minute round. I couldn't recover properly for the next bout which ended up being less than 15 mins later and I got choked out after running out of steam when my opponent got on top. I dropped about 15lbs from my natural weight in a month which doesn't sound huge at the 92kg level but I was already lean and a lot of that ended up being water and muscle because I dropped my carbs too much and upped my protein intake. I don't know how the pros can cut like they do, in the time that they do and still perform. What I'm doing now is just getting my long term diet fixed and sticking to my natural weight while training regularly.

MMAMickey
6/02/2011 5:25am,
In my experience the issue isn't the weight cut, but too large a weight cut over too short a time period. This varies from person to person, but if your athletic performance decreases, you're always feeling tired and/or you are experiencing diminished recovery between training sessions, then you're cutting too much and not getting the healthy **** you need

So basically, what Koresh said; eat right and drink plenty of water. As for the weights, I'm not sure I agree totally with the high rep weight programs, but any weight training is better than none.

tao.jonez
6/02/2011 10:31am,
You are a white belt going to blue and competing for the first time ever...weight shouldn't be a major concern.

Your first competition will be nerve wracking enough - I wouldn't focus on cutting weight, unless you're really comfortable with cutting. Focus on dialing in your technique, and do plenty of cardio and strength training. Once you have a competition under your belt, decide if you actually NEED to cut weight to be competitive.

Eat healthy and train healthy for now. Compete at your natural weight this time.

PS - unless it's a big competition, there probably won't be too many guys down at -141 anyway. It would suck to cut 25 or 30 lbs and get bumped up a division...

Vorpal
6/02/2011 10:45am,
I think I was 141 in 4th grade.

CheeksWWAC
6/02/2011 11:24am,
Cool, sounds like good stuff, but what is the benefit of cutting in Jits? I figure it would be more beneficial for MT or boxing due to lower weight classes generally having shorter people thus shorter reaches but I don't feel like when I get tapped out when Im rolling that it has much to do with how much taller someone is than me. In fact I feel like rolling with people that are of comparible weight but much taller than me is a good thing normally because I can usual find more holes in their positions for me to escape. Other than the advantage the long legged have for triangles and basing out for knee on belly and other things of that nature, What could possibly benefit me from fighting feather instead of light weight?

Kintanon
6/02/2011 11:31am,
When you are cutting water weight to get into a lower weight class it means you are likely carrying higher muscle mass than your opponent who didn't cut weight. Meaning you should be stronger.
I personally have stopped cutting weight and no longer give a ****. I try to do the Absolute division where there are no weight classes, so I don't bother trying to cut from 145 down. I honestly recommend that you not cut weight at all your first few competitions. If you decide to do the Pan Ams or Mundials or something big like that then you can start cutting weight at comps to get a feel for it.

tao.jonez
6/02/2011 12:00pm,
What Kin said. Some people confuse "cutting" weight with "losing" weight. Cutting generally means dehydrating yourself to some degree. Losing weight, generally means dropping fat, hopefully in a healthy manner.

If you're carrying around extra fat, by all means manage your weight properly. That means a healthy diet + exercise.

If you're naturally a 140 lb guy who's carrying 25 lbs of flab, some weight loss could do you some good.

CheeksWWAC
6/02/2011 8:10pm,
Ok that makes sense. Thanks for the help. Ill post video's when I compete so the bullies can tell me how Im doing it wrong.

All Dice
6/02/2011 9:42pm,
Follow this guide (http://www.grapplearts.com/How-to-Cut-Weight.html)

Sang
6/02/2011 10:16pm,
Assuming same day weigh in, don't use the above guide.

Weight cutting tips for same day weigh in:

Don't use laxative, mild or otherwise. Once the adrenaline hits you the after effects can be a bad combination. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's done a fight more concerned about shitting my pants than winning it.

Don't drastically cut carbs in order to lose the 4 pounds of glycogen weight and then refuel before the competition. Your body will rebound hard, with 24 hours time its enough to get over the sluggish/sick feeling of recarbing but if you try to do a complete carb load in less than 6 hours you are going to feel bloated, sluggish and most likely low on energy.

Don't cut more than 5 pounds in the last 24 hours. Being dehydrated will hurt your performance, I'm sure someone here has the statistic on the huge effect of even 1% dehydration on athletic performance. There is also a very real risk on brain/organ damage if you get dropped on your head.

Do tighten your diet over 2 months like suggested above to lower your body fat slowly. I've actually seen it suggested to use heavy weights and low reps to maintain muscle mass over the cut but i think at the end of the day you'd be hard pressed to notice a difference.

Do rehydrate with an aid like pedalyte to put back some of the crucial ingredients your body sweated out, and keep drinking until your pee turns clear.

Do eat some food 2-3 hours before you compete, and come prepared with food and drink for a long day.

[Professionals get around many of the above tips by having personal doctors ready to administer I.V.s right after the weigh in. It is a really common practice in Thailand from what i hear.]

ADM
6/02/2011 10:35pm,
Don't think I've ever cut weight for any tournament ever.

Sang
6/02/2011 11:01pm,
I was cutting from 77kg to 66kg for Muay Thai fights over 2 weeks with no effect on my fight performance.

For BJJ I won't bother, I've signed up for the next tournament in the 77-87kg class at 80kg.

CheeksWWAC
6/03/2011 2:39am,
I.V.s are also awesome when youre hungover. Banana bags take you from feeling like **** to ready to rock in 20 minutes