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idaymann
12/15/2010 12:40am,
Hey all -- came across this site while researching MA gyms here in Boston.
Not much (read: ANY) background in MA, but my flatmate is an instructor in what seems to be all of your favorite martial art -- TKD -- so I get dragged to the gym/work out/etc with him every once in a while.

I've been wanting to get into MMA, (I'm still in pretty good shape, played sports for years and years, I just am really interested in sparring -- hitting and getting hit sounds like fun to me!) and I'm not sure if this is the right spot to post this, but i've narrowed down a couple of gyms i'm planning on checking out, one which I found off a review posted on this site:
http://www.redlinefightsports.com/
and
http://waikru.com
if anyone has any input/thoughts about either of them, i'd love to hear it!

Also, special thanks to moderator "Bah Humbug" for already labeling me as a "Possible Spammer" -- I guess the usual forum mantra of lurk more gets you in trouble here, so I figured I better make an introductory post! ;)

W. Rabbit
12/15/2010 3:46pm,
Also, special thanks to moderator "Bah Humbug" for already labeling me as a "Possible Spammer" -- I guess the usual forum mantra of lurk more gets you in trouble here, so I figured I better make an introductory post! ;)

Good idea. Now just avoid spamming and everything will turn out fine. Probably.

I live in MA for a long time, I miss it up there.

Snake Plissken
12/15/2010 3:57pm,
Welcome to the site.

I know posters WarWheel/Matt Phillips/Adolph the rednosed reindeer, his son Kosherkickboxer and Bobyclumsyninja trains(ed) at Redline, so perhaps they will come in and offer up some opinions of the training.
Also, Staff member Ho Homega/Omega is a former opponent of Marvin Perry....so he can offer up that anecdotal evidence.

Matt Phillips
12/15/2010 4:16pm,
Redline is also home of Kin Moy aka Strikistanian who is the #1 ranked amateur MMA fighter at his weight statewide. Wai Kru is a great place too.

idaymann
12/15/2010 4:26pm,
Welcome to the site.

I know posters WarWheel/Matt Phillips/Adolph the rednosed reindeer, his son Kosherkickboxer and Bobyclumsyninja trains(ed) at Redline(clip)


Redline is also home of Kin Moy aka Strikistanian who is the #1 ranked amateur MMA fighter at his weight statewide. Wai Kru is a great place too.

Thanks for the advice guys -- i've just a couple of questions about the styles taught at the schools, Wai Kru seems to be mostly Muai Thai and BJJ, where as Redline is Kuo Chuan Shu and San Shou for standing techniques? I'm not familiar with either, so I dont know how they compare, etc. They both seem to have excellent track records. (Especially redline)

Also, what is pricing like at redline, for those of you who go there? I couldnt really find much on the website.

Soldiermedic
12/15/2010 7:50pm,
Here is the Redline Bullshido review with the school information

REDLINE Fight Sports - Boston/Cambridge - No BS MMA and Martial Arts (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47509)

here is the chinese kickboxing club

Chinese Kickboxing and Submission Fighting Club, Boston - No BS MMA and Martial Arts (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55905)

Is there any neighborhood in Boston or the burbs that is particularly convenient for you? If you are near Newton I'd check out Galperin's Sambo also

http://www.combatsambo.com/

Omega Supreme
12/15/2010 11:23pm,
I've trained at both. I highly recommend Redline. Nothing personal against Wai Kru but my experience was just that much better. I got to train with two of the fighters at Redline and Marvin Perry and I have actually fought.

Matt Phillips
12/16/2010 8:05am,
Here is the Redline Bullshido review with the school information

REDLINE Fight Sports - Boston/Cambridge - No BS MMA and Martial Arts (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47509)

here is the chinese kickboxing club

Chinese Kickboxing and Submission Fighting Club, Boston - No BS MMA and Martial Arts (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55905)

Is there any neighborhood in Boston or the burbs that is particularly convenient for you? If you are near Newton I'd check out Galperin's Sambo also

http://www.combatsambo.com/
No offense to Galperin, but I really do not recommend that place, as they do not train to compete at all. There is a small Sambo club in Burlington called SAMBO 7 run by a guy named Andre. They send guys to Sambo events and Judo shiai.

to the OP: San Shou looks like this:

YouTube - 2003 Sanshou World Cup Highlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcnT3Mx-ZTU)

Here's a fight involving one of the members of this site who trains at redline YouTube - Kin Moy Feb AFO Fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGi7diby07o)

Matt Phillips
12/16/2010 11:15pm,
I can happily report that Chicago Bully ignignokt joined the gym 3 days ago, and I got to train with him today. That brings the number of Bullies at the gym to around 10. Every day is like a TD here ;) (if it actually were Kosherkickboxer and Strikistanian would have earned TD fists for the way they went at each other tonight.)

strikistanian
12/17/2010 1:29am,
Redline is also home of Kin Moy aka Strikistanian who is the #1 ranked amateur MMA fighter at his weight statewide. Wai Kru is a great place too.

^ The ranking is for New England, not just Massachusetts. Though I'm only #1 in my weight class (135), not of all amateurs. I'm not nearly as accomplished as Tyson Chartier or Ricardo Georges... Thanks for the shoutout, though!




Thanks for the advice guys -- i've just a couple of questions about the styles taught at the schools, Wai Kru seems to be mostly Muai Thai and BJJ, where as Redline is Kuo Chuan Shu and San Shou for standing techniques? I'm not familiar with either, so I dont know how they compare, etc. They both seem to have excellent track records. (Especially redline)

Also, what is pricing like at redline, for those of you who go there? I couldnt really find much on the website.

Redline has a full program. For standup there is San Da/San Shou as well as boxing. It should also be mentioned that there are a ton of Muay Thai converts, so you'll probably get a taste of that too. As for grappling, there is a BJJ program led by an esteemed blackbelt. There's also 3 wrestling classes a week taught by two coaches, who each have over a decade of wrestling under their belts.

Matt Phillips
12/17/2010 7:17am,
^ The ranking is for New England, not just Massachusetts. Though I'm only #1 in my weight class (135), not of all amateurs. I'm not nearly as accomplished as Tyson Chartier or Ricardo Georges... Thanks for the shoutout, though!


Bro, I mentioned the weight class thing. Don't criticize me or I'll sick my kid on you again :P



Redline has a full program. For standup there is San Da/San Shou as well as boxing. It should also be mentioned that there are a ton of Muay Thai converts, so you'll probably get a taste of that too. As for grappling, there is a BJJ program led by an esteemed blackbelt. There's also 3 wrestling classes a week taught by two coaches, who each have over a decade of wrestling under their belts.
Just wanted to point out that 2 of those wrestling classes are (at least on the schedule) Greco/Catch wrestling classes, not Freestyle. I know they mix it up in class, but it's confusing to a new guy looking at the listed classes.

to the OP: PM me or Strikistanian if you're coming down so we can meet you when you visit.

Snake Plissken
12/17/2010 11:05am,
to the OP: PM me or Strikistanian if you're coming down so we can meet you when you visit.
you aren't going to get too much of a warmer welcome on this site.

Matt Phillips
12/17/2010 2:53pm,
I found this vid about one of the coaches at Redline. It shows the facilities pretty well too. Ryan is a a "Muaythai convert": He trains SanDa now but still fights in MT.

YouTube - Ryan McDermott - Muay Thai Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TVRet4_hwE)

strikistanian
12/19/2010 9:21pm,
Bro, I mentioned the weight class thing. Don't criticize me or I'll sick my kid on you again :P


Just wanted to point out that 2 of those wrestling classes are (at least on the schedule) Greco/Catch wrestling classes, not Freestyle. I know they mix it up in class, but it's confusing to a new guy looking at the listed classes.

to the OP: PM me or Strikistanian if you're coming down so we can meet you when you visit.

My bad about the weight class thing. Please... keep Ben on his leash. x_x;

As for the wrestling classes...

I just wish they would call them all 'wrestling.' On Monday John Bravo teachers freestyle. On Friday and Sunday Jeremiah teaches a combination of freestyle, greco, and catch wrestling. He blends the freestyle shooting with greco takedowns, and sometimes even goes over some quick transitions into catch subs. I wish it wasn't so confusing, but it all ends up being pretty similar. The best breakdown is monday = basic fundamental techniques. fri/sun = intermediate techniques, pre-adapted for MMA.

idaymann
1/29/2011 5:03pm,
Hey everyone, thanks for all the help!!

Also, sorry for the (very) late response, I play music and was offered a last minute gig touring around the states, so had very limited internet access.

I'm finally back in Boston now though, so will plan on coming in within a week or so, and will shoot you a PM before I do. Thanks a million!

Snake Plissken
1/30/2011 11:13am,
Hey everyone, thanks for all the help!!

Also, sorry for the (very) late response, I play music and was offered a last minute gig touring around the states, so had very limited internet access.

I'm finally back in Boston now though, so will plan on coming in within a week or so, and will shoot you a PM before I do. Thanks a million!
Bobyclumsyninja trains at Redline AND is in a band.
You two might hit it off nicely.