PDA

View Full Version : Solipsism and Positive thinking... Can they really bring me a million dollars?



pokeroo
11/16/2010 6:11pm,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo

I am glad someone is finally speaking out against this bullshit. It seems obvious how flawed solipsism is, but many organizations seem to value positive thinking above all else.

In the world of martial arts and sports, it seems getting psyched up for the fight or the game is a big part of the strategy, but its only possible to have that confidence for real if you put in the sweat and hours, and you have the skill.

I have heard the doctrine of solipsism used to justify a lack of sympathy for the downtrodden too much, as well as for the purpose of swindling people. Once in my younger days I went to something looking for a job and found myself at a meeting that was for a pyramid scheme. Aside from thinking about how I wanted to gtfo, all they would talk about is how you can overcome anything if you have the right attitude and work hard.

I'm not saying that there is no truth in the value of hard work or a positive attitude, but just that neither is a cure-all, and we need to always be realistic.

King Sleepless
11/16/2010 7:07pm,
If solipsism were real, then my life would be so much better than it is.

battlefields
11/16/2010 7:54pm,
I don't know nor care much about solipsism because I can't figure out if it is real or not.

pokeroo
11/16/2010 9:45pm,
I don't know nor care much about solipsism because I can't figure out if it is real or not.

Well theorhetically your entire experience of reality could all be an illusion. Perhaps you are just a brain in a vat being stimulated to believe that your at home by your computer posting on a message board. But solipsism goes further down the rabbit hole by positing that your expectations are what mold reality. To answer your question... it is infalsifiable. In other words, it may be possible to prove even though it hasn't been proven, but even if its false, it is still impossible to disprove.

battlefields
11/16/2010 9:53pm,
Was my joke too subtle?

Ice Hole
11/16/2010 10:17pm,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo

I am glad someone is finally speaking out against this bullshit. It seems obvious how flawed solipsism is, but many organizations seem to value positive thinking above all else.

In the world of martial arts and sports, it seems getting psyched up for the fight or the game is a big part of the strategy, but its only possible to have that confidence for real if you put in the sweat and hours, and you have the skill.

I have heard the doctrine of solipsism used to justify a lack of sympathy for the downtrodden too much, as well as for the purpose of swindling people. Once in my younger days I went to something looking for a job and found myself at a meeting that was for a pyramid scheme. Aside from thinking about how I wanted to gtfo, all they would talk about is how you can overcome anything if you have the right attitude and work hard.

I'm not saying that there is no truth in the value of hard work or a positive attitude, but just that neither is a cure-all, and we need to always be realistic.

Positive thinking works to your advantage until your universe decides to move in a contrary direction, from there, positive thinking can help you get back in accord with your new universe.

battlefields
11/17/2010 12:01am,
I practise a form of positive thinking. It is in a song, "always look on the bright side of life *whistle tune*".

goodlun
11/17/2010 12:46am,
Well I for one believe that positive thinking certainly helps most of the time. I don't think its some great cosmic or metaphysical thing though. Positive thinking versus wishful thinking, drives people to work hard enough to make things happen. Kind of self fulfilling.

battlefields
11/17/2010 12:54am,
^ yep, agree. Also, when life shits on you, it is your attitude that makes it ****, if your attitude is good, then you sell manure.

DAYoung
11/17/2010 3:50am,
New Age solipsism: when you're too pissweak for Stoicism.

Ice Hole
11/17/2010 11:23am,
^ yep, agree. Also, when life shits on you, it is your attitude that makes it ****, if your attitude is good, then you sell manure.

Funny, true story.

When I was young we owned a farm and I often was forced by my stepfather to assist at nearby farms, often doing hard labor while he got paid for it.

One of my least favorite jobs was slinging poo, as it were, from various animal stalls and fenced areas, sometimes stacked in piles as high as five feet (as a courtesy done by the host farmer, to make it easier for me I guess).

One day I asked one of those farmers how he could stand the smell of his farm all day long, and he said something that made me laugh so hard I never forgot it:


"Son, if they shittin, it means I'm eatin".The power of positive thinking.

Eddie Hardon
11/18/2010 6:27am,
Positive thinking works to your advantage until your universe decides to move in a contrary direction, from there, positive thinking can help you get back in accord with your new universe.

Perfectly illustrated last weekend when Audley Harrison entered the Ring. Until reality hit (in Round 3).:XXonlyamo

Still, the positive thinking gained its own reward. Apparently he got away with 1.2M.

15 of it mine. PPV.

Mr.Miyagi
11/20/2010 12:34am,
I like the punch line at the end.

legomepanda
11/20/2010 9:35am,
Your positive thinking is no match for my anger.

DAYoung
11/20/2010 2:46pm,
^ Positive thinker.