What Kung-Fu style goes well with san-da?

[ChinoXL]

I know san-da "IS" kung-fu however my question is which style will mesh//blend with san-da and compliment it nicely?

[Tom Kagan]

This has to be one of the more obtuse questions on MA I've come across recently.


The only non-trolling answer I can think of is: whatever you want.

[Ming Loyalist]

yeah, really.

san da is a RULE SET. one which many styles of kung fu compete UNDER.

any kung fu that is not bullshit should be able to compete under this rule set.

if you are checking out a kung fu school and they don't fight under the san shou (san da) rule set or the lei tai rule set, then you need to be skeptical of their value as a school.

[ChinoXL]

well i took several kung-fu styles.. and their footwork, and stancing screws up the san-da .. san-da has a very kickboxing oriented stance... with the footwork, the kung-fu stances have 6-7 stances with footwork that transitions for one stance to another, alot of the kung-fu is based on theories (been to a few schools in the past) and all i do is san-da right now (the ring and what's practical).. i'm planning on jumping to kung-fu in a few years.. mayb.. but i want something that i can use well with my san-da .. or i might just jump to boxing.. or mayb try and find a muay boran school.

[Cullion]

You weren't taught properly.

Tai Chi works fine in San Da.

[Tom Kagan]

What kind of coffee goes well with espresso?


I know espresso "IS" coffee however my question is which bean will grind/blend with espresso and compliment it nicely?

[Ming Loyalist]

since you didn't appear to read my post, i am quoting it:

yeah, really.

san da is a RULE SET. one which many styles of kung fu compete UNDER.

any kung fu that is not bullshit should be able to compete under this rule set.

if you are checking out a kung fu school and they don't fight under the san shou (san da) rule set or the lei tai rule set, then you need to be skeptical of their value as a school.

reading is fundamental. try it.

since san da is a rule set it doesn't have a "stance" do you understand the difference between a rule set and a "style"?

where are you training now? if it's a place that labels itself a san da gym i would guess that they have roots in at least one style of kung fu.

[new2bjj]

well i took several kung-fu styles.. and their footwork, and stancing screws up the san-da .. san-da has a very kickboxing oriented stance... with the footwork, the kung-fu stances have 6-7 stances with footwork that transitions for one stance to another, alot of the kung-fu is based on theories (been to a few schools in the past) and all i do is san-da right now (the ring and what's practical).. i'm planning on jumping to kung-fu in a few years.. mayb.. but i want something that i can use well with my san-da .. or i might just jump to boxing.. or mayb try and find a muay boran school. Boxing, Muay Thai, Greco Roman wrestling or Maybe KyoKushin. Those are the systems the coach of one of the big schools out here has done. He also teaches northern ShaoLin, though none of his San Da moves look anything like it. I'm sure, some where in china, there is a roguh and tumble school of Kung Fu, that looks like Sanda, I'm just not sure where. After all, 1,000,000,000 Chinese can't be Wong! Doh....

[ChinoXL]

oh okay; most people in san-da fights the same i thought san-da ended up becomming a style of it's own. nvm then.

[Teh El Macho]

Boxing, Muay Thai, Greco Roman wrestling or Maybe KyoKushin. Those are the systems the coach of one of the big schools out here has done. He also teaches northern ShaoLin, though none of his San Da moves look anything like it. I'm sure, some where in china, there is a roguh and tumble school of Kung Fu, that looks like Sanda, I'm just not sure where. After all, 1,000,000,000 Chinese can't be Wong! Doh....Some CLF, Hung Gar and NPM schools here in the US produce Sanda fighters, btw.

[new2bjj]

Some CLF, Hung Gar and NPM schools here in the US produce Sanda fighters, btw.
My old Wu shu coach, from Jet Li's team said, "Forms or Fighting, you don't do both in China..."

That's not to name drop, as I really sucked at Wu Shu, but She was on the Bei Jing Team, so, I figure that should be the last word on it. Also, Jason Yee, Boston San Shou Coach, says the same thing. Still, if it's a hobby, you could do both- besides, once you get to creaky to fight all the time, those forms can be fun....

[isol8d]

My old Wu shu coach, from Jet Li's team said, "Forms or Fighting, you don't do both in China..."

That's not to name drop, as I really sucked at Wu Shu, but She was on the Bei Jing Team, so, I figure that should be the last word on it. Also, Jason Yee, Boston San Shou Coach, says the same thing. Still, if it's a hobby, you could do both- besides, once you get to creaky to fight all the time, those forms can be fun....

I've done both, and well, I suck at both, but it is a hobby. I took about 1 1/2 years off of forms to do more fighting. I'm kind of back to the forms while I get back in shape. Fighting once a week rather than 3-4 times allows for more time to recover while I exercise.

Usually, the guys who are in really good fighting shape can also do pretty nice forms, but not all the guys who can do nice forms have the heart to fight.

[ChinoXL]

let me restate my question then; are there certain kung-fu styles that tend to have more involvement in the competitive san da arena than others? if so, what are they?

[Ming Loyalist]

ok, now we're getting somewhere.

a lot of the traditionally hard hitting southern styles are well-represented in san da: hung ga(r), choy lei fut, jow ga, lamma kung fu, etc.

of course since we're talking about kung fu here, the majority of schools coming from any style will be full of shit. i have seen some really piss-poor hung ga out there, believe me. goes to show that reputation means nothing.

it would be nice if the USCKF website listed the school alongside the competitor in their results page, cause it would read like a list of all the good schools, but they don't list that info.

[ChinoXL]

what's your professional opinion on a few northen styles.. ie. mantis, baji, piqua .. (wu-tang)

[Ming Loyalist]

i have very little 1st hand experience with northern styles. from what i have seen on this board, baji is supposed to be bad ass but there are very few teachers around.