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thomasaaron
08-01-2003, 08:07 AM
I have an interesting experience to relate to you. Back in college (15 years ago or thereabouts), I was practicing a Karate style called Ko Sutemi Sei Kan (not sure about the spelling). It was basically an offshoot of Shotokan, but it was an attempt to return to the more martial roots.

One day in class, we were working on a palm/slap block. A lot like the karate kid's "painting" blocks.

Anyway, at home, I closed my eyes, took a couple of deep breaths and visualized somebody throwing a variety of punches at me, more or less slowly. Physically, I would slowly, and in a relaxed way, block the imaginary punches.

At the next practice in the dojo, I found that I had MASTERED that block. Nobody could get a hit in on me. The slap blocks were lightning fast and hard hitting. Other students even complained that I was blocking too hard. But it was all reflexive.

15 years, and several martial arts later, I STILL can't help but apply that block to most attacks!

So, while I'll not argue that Kata is a miracle cure, kata-like practice, if done relaxedly and with good visualization, can be nothing short of miraculous.

Here is my view on Kata. It is more or less an encyclopedia of techniques, footwork, and body mechanics. If you break it down and practice the individual techniques properly and with visualization, and adapt the techniques to realistic attacks, then kata is well used.

"STOP THE VIOLENCE!!!!" Ghandi (or somebody)

Das Moose
08-01-2003, 08:17 AM
That's cool.

[Das Moose]

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thomasaaron
08-01-2003, 10:47 AM
Darn tootin!

Dying ain't much of a livin', boy. (Clint Eastwood)
If you could only put yourself in my shoes, you'd walk right back to me. (Clint Black)

Jamoke
08-01-2003, 10:55 AM
hey thomas, i am a clint black fan!

PizDoff
08-01-2003, 10:58 AM
action visualization

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Hard work, Patience, Dedication.

thomasaaron
08-01-2003, 10:58 AM
I always thought he should've made it bigger. He stayed fairly true to country when Garth Brooks was turning it into pop.

Oh well.

Dying ain't much of a livin', boy. (Clint Eastwood)
If you could only put yourself in my shoes, you'd walk right back to me. (Clint Black)

Kempocos
08-01-2003, 11:30 AM
I like to look at kata as aligning and tuning my breath and body movement. This results in more efficient and therefore faster and more powerful techniques with better endurance.

In the fog of doubt and bad technique, pain clears the view to proper technique.

thomasaaron
08-01-2003, 12:54 PM
That's fine. But you might not be getting all from it that you can -- as you're limiting your perception of its benefits... Just a humble thought.

"Did we whoop 'em again, Josie?
Yeah, boy. We whooped 'em again."
(The outlaw Josie Whales.)

Xuanlong Xian
08-01-2003, 02:11 PM
Wasn't there a story about Mas Oyama training one student just by having him meditate and visualize?

Kempocos
08-01-2003, 02:49 PM
I am not discussing bunkai ( breakdown ) just the benefit from an exercise standpoint.

In the fog of doubt and bad technique, pain clears the view to proper technique.

Omar
08-01-2003, 03:59 PM
The story I heard was that, as an experiment, he had a group of students stop their regular training for a period of time and only meditate/visualize/whatever. Then after some set period of time, (6 week? a month?) he had them join back with the rest of the class and they outperformed the one's who had been doing 'regular' training.

It's just a story I heard.

...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

Omar
08-01-2003, 03:59 PM
The story I heard was that, as an experiment, he had a group of students stop their regular training for a period of time and only meditate/visualize/whatever. Then after some set period of time, (6 week? a month?) he had them join back with the rest of the class and they outperformed the one's who had been doing 'regular' training.

It's just a story I heard.

...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

Time to compromise on kata


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