successful fighting techniques

[Jenfucius]

i know this topic comes up from time to time but i think it's due for another round. i'd like to hear from you guys about what techniques you've used, had used on you, or have seen used successfully in a fight in a ring or on the street. friendly sparring matches do not count. please include roughly what rules the fight took place under, if any, and what the effect was on the person on the receiving end.

i'll lead off. my friend told me he got in a fight. he front kicked the guy, then pushed him into his car so he was half in and half out. he then alternated between punching the guy in the face and pulling him out by the legs. the guy gave up.

i know i said this already, but in realityfighting i saw 2 guillotine chokes, 1 armlock, 1 ref stoppage due to punches to the face.

come on guys. you all talk a lot of shit. this is your chance to back it up.

[noodles]

Back it up by talking some more? How does that work?

[Omega the Merciless]

Rear naked choke works for me to know end.

Official WTDude Badass Evil Genius

[TaeBo_Master]

I get Omega to do my dirty work.

--A poor band player I was, but now I am crocodile king. --

[noodles]

Oh, all right -- the "street technique" I've seen used successfully most often is:

1) Maneuver opponent into disadvantageous position.

2) Punch head without warning. Repeat until after opponent falls down but before friends / cops / bouncers arrive.

3) Walk away quickly. Unless they're your friends coming or you're a cop or bouncer.

[Das Moose]

A few simple wristlocks for when someone tries to shove me in order to piss me off and get their nerve up to hit me.

Chain Punching. Scares the absolute bejeesus out of anyone who hasn't experienced it before. And that's just without the punches landing...

Grabbing back of head and elbow strike.

Grabbing neck and under-arm and knee to stomach.

Hammerlock.

Jab-Cross.

Roundhouse kick (MT style)

Front kick (WT style)

osoto-gari (judo)

on the ground I tend to just get mount then strike once or twice very hard followed by rolling the guy onto his front in an armbar, unless there are more people around.

[Das Moose]

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[Akuma]

Based on my experiences on the street I use these "techniques"

Punch the guy in the foreahead, nose and chin repeatedly until he gives up or becomes dizzy. If he doesn't, use alternating techniques like punching the three weaknesses above, kicking, pushing, blocking, gouging eyes, punching the throat, kicking the balls and punching the chest.

I recommend not to use the last three mentioned not unless you want to kill somebody.

I will flame Fatality Gay until he dies of Cancer, AIDS, SARS and terrorism.

[SLJ]

Punching soemone in the forehead wouldn't do your knuckles any good, and it would do the other guy very little damage.

I have used a right cross successfully.

(We were in a lava pit so I didn't want to use grappling)

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Edited by - slj on July 31 2003 08:21:07

[Fisting Kittens]

When I get into a fight, I don't usually remember the details. I do shit to them and the fight ends. I've been in more than a few fights in my life, and thanks to the adrenaline dump I usually don't remember many particulars. I'm always EXTREMELY skeptical of anyone who gives a blow by blow account of their fights unless they've seen a videotape.

When I hear:
"ok so he punched at me and I sidestepped to the left, while delivering a single knuckle punch to the floating rib. Then I switched directions into a neutral horse stance, using the momentum shift to ridge hand him in the throat. Then he tried to punch me with his other hand and I stepped around behind him and applied the rear naked choke, while stomping on the back of his knee to bring him to the ground. Then I axe kicked his balls. IT WAS SWEEEEEEEET!!!!!"

I think you are full of shit. Fights aren't about thinking, or placing. They are about reflexes and muscle memory. Its the things you do without thinking about them that win fights. And if you aren't thinking about them then its kind of hard to remember them.

So to answer the question, what do I do in fights?

I react,react, and then react some more. And then usually I'm still up, the other guy is down, and I'm left with a bunch of weird bruises that I have no clue where they came from. I usually spend the next day thinking "how the fuck did I get hit in the back of the head? I don't remember getting turned. And why is there a huge scrape on my calf?"

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In short: to flame.

[Combatman]

Exactly, you react, period. There is no time for thinking. A palm strike to the chin is good as is the "tiger claw" to the throat. But t he bottom line is you train to REACT, not think. If you think, you're ass is unconscious.

[SLJ]

I prefer "Badger hand" to the solar plexus myself.

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[kusari]

I've only been in one real fight since I started training. And as much as I really remember first hand (the rest from other people near the bar) was...I got punched at, hit...punched at again, moved...somehow kicked the guys knee or shin (or something down there) and outside wrist locked him headfirst into the edge of the bar. It didn't knock him out, but he did have to be carried out, and his scalp was bleeding nicely. Gladly, I knew the bouncer of the place, and he let me stay and finish my Amstel.

But like JKDChick said, all this was, as all fighting is...was built in body memory reaction.

Don't think, just do.

ryan

[Southpaw]

Fisting Kittens--You are absolutely right. As a matter of fact, the last time I was in a fight, I had to ask the two people who happened to see it if I blocked the guys punches or just evaded. I didn't know. All I remember was him throwing punches, me thowing one overhand left, and him falling down. All the details were given to me after the fact.

[Shi Heng Che]

I agree with the last few points and i believe that instant reaction is one of the most important factor in a fight. The other important thing is the willingness to use what you have learned.
In fighting there is no time to think "yes i will do this and i will do that" you have to have all the techniques just below the surface of your awareness and be ready to let the situation choose your technique and not yourself choose what you may think may be the correct technique.

[tkdude06]

only fight i "remember" is when sum of my friends were hassling this one guy and he swung blind. lucky him, it hit me in the back of the head. from there i remember him pull back and i jabbed him in the nose and pulled back for a jkd hook, next thing i know, my friend is pullin me off of h the guy, jaw hangin open. im pretty sure i got him on the ground and started slammin his face, but thats what my friends tell me

[Mercurius]

My first fight, ever, was in second grade. These kids who were in first grade got pissed at me because I used to be in their class before I skipped the rest of the grade. They came at me lined up, and that's how they got knocked down-- by a sidekick I'd learned studying Tang Soo Do.