Tai Chi will kick your ass!

[thomasaaron]

Hey guys, just joking with the subject line. I'm new here. I've been practicing Yang Taijiquan for about 6 years. I've been in two altercations, which were fairly minor. In both, my rooting and balance gave me a clear advantage against the non-martial-artists I fought. Big whoop, I know.

But still, I think that if there ever was a time that Tai Chi was NOT worthless for serious combat, that time is long gone. I do not know of a single modern-day Tai Chi practitioner that could do squat in a no-holds barred competition -- or even a stand-up only competition like the Sabaki Challenge, which I would someday like to participate in.

I am getting rid of the flaky postures and adapting tai chi principles to realistic attacks.

I've started trying to modify my Tai Chi for realistic stand-up fighting. Does ANYONE know of ANY video footage of Tai Chi fighters in REAL fights? I can't find any.

I can't seem to pull up the one on bullshido.com, "50 year old tai-chi master vs. 30 year old white crane stylist."

Any discussion on this would be appreciated. I'm open to criticism of Tai Chi and helpful pointers. I've cross-trained in several other styles, most of which are worthless by themselves.

Sinc,
Tom

[Balloonknot]

Hey Kungfoolss nice try.

[thomasaaron]

this is not kungfools. i'm serious.

Fighting Spirit is 90% of the battle. If you don't have it, you ain't shit -- regardless of what style you practice.

[HAPKO3]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I would suggest, and it may seem like it's not what you're looking for, picking up some real MMA training. From what I understand, Tai Chi teaches you some things that can be applied to real fight training to give you an advantage. Don't limit yourself by trying to mold what you already know into a system. Rather, learn and actualt fighting system, and apply what you know to excelling in it.

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I remain, Hapko3

[Xuanlong Xian]

the taiji vs white crane clip is crap. neither of those fighters is doing anything resembling their alleged systems.

[thomasaaron]

Thanks. I'd wondered what the clip was like. I'll quit worrying about it.

Fighting Spirit is 90% of the battle. If you don't have it, you ain't shit -- regardless of what style you practice.

[Balloonknot]

Thomas Aaron, why did you stay with TC for 6 years if you're not happy with it?

[RobP]

Lol, because I'm guessing that if he didn't people would say "oh you didn't stay with it for long enough to discover the real taiji" ;-)

[thomasaaron]

Don't get me wrong, I've gotten a lot from Tai Chi. A lot of positive things. I just said that it wasn't worth crap for NHB fighting or serious combat. I've gained a lot of skills that might mesh well with realistic combat training. But Tai Chi itself isn't that realistic. Dig?

Fighting Spirit is 90% of the battle. If you don't have it, you ain't shit -- regardless of what style you practice.

[Balloonknot]

I just don't understand why everyone here has to apply everything to NHB/UFC. The person that tries to rob or jump you most likely will NOT be a UFC grappler. If you are a decent MA at all, you should have a huge advantage over the average Joe-Bum-Fuck who tries to bitch you out. Whateva!

[RobP]

Try this link

http://www.sheenpeak.com/NgvsChan.WMV

It was a "fight" between a wu style taiji master and a younger white crane guy to prove that taiji was "for real". By all accounts it's a pretty poor show.

[Boyd]

I just don't understand why everyone here has to apply everything to NHB/UFC. The person that tries to rob or jump you most likely will NOT be a UFC grappler. If you are a decent MA at all, you should have a huge advantage over the average Joe-Bum-Fuck who tries to bitch you out. Whateva!

They'll probably be as proficient striking as they are grappling. That is to say, they'll probably be sloppy, but that doesn't mean they can't hurt you. If a guy knocks you down and happens to land on top, it doesn't take a genius to see what's coming next.

Well they were clearly using those systems tactics, such as moving, breathing and attacking the opponent.

High five.

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[kalvinkrime]

Hello

Dont know of any videos of tai chi fighting but you should check out
http://www.taichichuan.co.uk

Its the site of a guy called Dan Dochety who practices Wudang style tai chi and has takes a much more practical view of the art. He fought in a couple of martial arts tournaments in the late 70s early 80s and did well. Dont know if he does books or videos but his site is worth a look.

hope this helps.

[HAPKO3]

Try this link

http://www.sheenpeak.com/NgvsChan.WMV

It was a "fight" between a wu style taiji master and a younger white crane guy to prove that taiji was "for real". By all accounts it's a pretty poor show.




WOW. These people look fucking pathetic.

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I remain, Hapko3

[jing shen gou]

Hey boyd, I'm a bad enough dude to rescue the president from ninjas. What do I get?

By the way, this makes the 999,999,999,999,999,999,992 time Tai chi has been discused.

the world you live in is just a sugar coated toping. beneath it is another world. The real world. and to survive there you must learn to pull the trigger!!!-Blade

Edited by - Jing shen gou on July 11 2003 22:39:33

[Mercurius]

'Taiji & the God of Karate' (http://crane.50megs.com/index6j.htm)