Missing the point.

[Aesopian]

and again... they aren't real results, just popular ones.http://tinypic.com/21ac85

[KenpoDude]

allright aesopian... i give. what's the point of the pic?

[FighterJones]

You don't know who that is do you?

[KenpoDude]

You don't know who that is do you?


nope. sorry.

[IzzyDaHedgehog]

Chuck Liddel is probably the most famous exponent of Ke?po.

That is him doing a meathook, a BJJ move invented by Eddie Bravo.

I really hope I don't have to explain beyond that.

[KenpoDude]

well, when i decided to take up MA, i took my only choice and found out it was kenpo. I then instantly read about everyone who ever did it. 'cuz that's not bullshit.

yeah... i don't really care about who does what that made whatever famous... but now i get the point... thanks, IDH.


I like the way you guys offer a no B.S. viewpoint on techniques and rediculous claims and such. I disagree about claims that such-and-such style sucks and no one should study it. Not all styles are great for UFC, but all are better than doing nothing.

kd

p.s. no i'm not going to give this viewpoint up.

[Aesopian]

"Better than doing nothing" is a rather low standard.

[KenpoDude]

true.... but by that i meant 'has value'.

[THX-1138]

...unpeeling like an onion...

[Aesopian]

true.... but by that i meant 'has value'.It also has "less value than..."

[Shuma-Gorath]

and again... they aren't real results, just popular ones.
Oh fuck off. You're telling me that on the internet, the medium for fringe popularity and accesibility, that there is not a single good wing chun or ninjitsu video out there? You're out of your mind.

They are only "popular" in the sense that they are the overwhelming majority.

[THX-1138]

There can be no video proof of ninja supremacy since real ninjas cannot be detected in the first place.

[KenpoDude]

Shuma,

I never said there wasn't wing chun videos... where in hell did that come from?

and 'overwhelming majority' = popular; it's actually definition number 6 in websters.

I get the sense that you're trying to argue, by use of the expletive, but then your 'points' make no sense.

Perhaps i'll buy and watch all 50(?) UFC fight DVD's and become enlightened in the philosophy of style supremecy.

kd

[Beatdown Richie]

The only fact as i see it is that training don't make the man, the man makes the training.
Totally not true. Of course you have to put in the work yourself, no one can take that responsibility from you, and if you don't, you're going to suck.

BUT. If you subscrive to a bullshit style or a McDojo, they will actively keep you from training correctly.

You will not find people willing to put your and their skills to the test. You will not have the resources (gloves, focus mitts, mats, etc.) at your disposal for training what you need to train. You will be told by your instructor that free sparring is too dangerous and that you're not ready for it and that if you have the real kung fu you don't need to spar anyway because things will just come to you when you need them. When you find that a move you were taught doesn't work, and figure out a way to make it work, you will be told that this is no longer true to the style X, and if you try that crap at a belt test you will get points deducted.

And of course there's the obvious problem that if your trainers don't know how to do things right, they can't teach you to do them right.

Bottom line is, go to a good school that teaches no-nonsense MA, it's worth it.

[KenpoDude]

that's for a school, not a style.

kd

[Aesopian]

What about when that is the usual school for an entire style?