Hannibal
08-22-2004, 11:30 PM
Feedback I don't know about you, but taking mind altering drugs while doing martial arts training is never a good idea. SAY NO TO DRUGS !!!!
View Full Version : The best karate style ?
Kaitain
08-23-2004, 03:10 AM
Hi, first post from me.
I trained Wado for nearly five years until I moved away from the school. Had a look at other schools in my area and didn't like what they were doing. Wado is good for building agility and footwork, it's a light style. Like all styles you need to judge by the school and teacher rather than the style.
I was lucky to have an instructor who didn't restrict himself to Wado - we did a lot of seminars with instructors from other arts. We incorporated stick work, some judo (we had a couple of BB's training with us who built a throwing module that linked in with the drills we had already for standup) and trained full contact at higher grades (wearing a lot of padding though). We worked a lot of taiji into the movement principles as well. No ground work. However, the quality of students wasn't that great (maybe 20 students out of the 200 or so that were good training partners) and there was a lot of misguided opinion about 'real fights'. I didn't train at a typical Wado school though - when I looked elsewhere I found old school training (up and down the hall doing reverse punches etc, kata, fixed pairs work, fantasy technique applications) that didn't appeal to me.
It comes down to what you are looking for from your MA - I enjoyed the feel of Wado and it helped my agility immensely. There is an emphasis on relaxation - some kata's are performed very differently to other styles I've seen (which emphasised dynamic tension instead) - don't think it's any better or worse, just different.
I trained Wado for nearly five years until I moved away from the school. Had a look at other schools in my area and didn't like what they were doing. Wado is good for building agility and footwork, it's a light style. Like all styles you need to judge by the school and teacher rather than the style.
I was lucky to have an instructor who didn't restrict himself to Wado - we did a lot of seminars with instructors from other arts. We incorporated stick work, some judo (we had a couple of BB's training with us who built a throwing module that linked in with the drills we had already for standup) and trained full contact at higher grades (wearing a lot of padding though). We worked a lot of taiji into the movement principles as well. No ground work. However, the quality of students wasn't that great (maybe 20 students out of the 200 or so that were good training partners) and there was a lot of misguided opinion about 'real fights'. I didn't train at a typical Wado school though - when I looked elsewhere I found old school training (up and down the hall doing reverse punches etc, kata, fixed pairs work, fantasy technique applications) that didn't appeal to me.
It comes down to what you are looking for from your MA - I enjoyed the feel of Wado and it helped my agility immensely. There is an emphasis on relaxation - some kata's are performed very differently to other styles I've seen (which emphasised dynamic tension instead) - don't think it's any better or worse, just different.
Alex
08-23-2004, 03:28 AM
shut the FUCK up noob
feedback
08-23-2004, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Kaitain
Hi, first post from me.
I trained Wado for nearly five years until I moved away from the school. Had a look at other schools in my area and didn't like what they were doing. Wado is good for building agility and footwork, it's a light style. Like all styles you need to judge by the school and teacher rather than the style.
I was lucky to have an instructor who didn't restrict himself to Wado - we did a lot of seminars with instructors from other arts. We incorporated stick work, some judo (we had a couple of BB's training with us who built a throwing module that linked in with the drills we had already for standup) and trained full contact at higher grades (wearing a lot of padding though). We worked a lot of taiji into the movement principles as well. No ground work. However, the quality of students wasn't that great (maybe 20 students out of the 200 or so that were good training partners) and there was a lot of misguided opinion about 'real fights'. I didn't train at a typical Wado school though - when I looked elsewhere I found old school training (up and down the hall doing reverse punches etc, kata, fixed pairs work, fantasy technique applications) that didn't appeal to me.
It comes down to what you are looking for from your MA - I enjoyed the feel of Wado and it helped my agility immensely. There is an emphasis on relaxation - some kata's are performed very differently to other styles I've seen (which emphasised dynamic tension instead) - don't think it's any better or worse, just different.
Shut your fucking mouth you cunt-faced little rodent.
Welcome to Bullshido.
Hi, first post from me.
I trained Wado for nearly five years until I moved away from the school. Had a look at other schools in my area and didn't like what they were doing. Wado is good for building agility and footwork, it's a light style. Like all styles you need to judge by the school and teacher rather than the style.
I was lucky to have an instructor who didn't restrict himself to Wado - we did a lot of seminars with instructors from other arts. We incorporated stick work, some judo (we had a couple of BB's training with us who built a throwing module that linked in with the drills we had already for standup) and trained full contact at higher grades (wearing a lot of padding though). We worked a lot of taiji into the movement principles as well. No ground work. However, the quality of students wasn't that great (maybe 20 students out of the 200 or so that were good training partners) and there was a lot of misguided opinion about 'real fights'. I didn't train at a typical Wado school though - when I looked elsewhere I found old school training (up and down the hall doing reverse punches etc, kata, fixed pairs work, fantasy technique applications) that didn't appeal to me.
It comes down to what you are looking for from your MA - I enjoyed the feel of Wado and it helped my agility immensely. There is an emphasis on relaxation - some kata's are performed very differently to other styles I've seen (which emphasised dynamic tension instead) - don't think it's any better or worse, just different.
Shut your fucking mouth you cunt-faced little rodent.
Welcome to Bullshido.
Kaitain
08-23-2004, 03:39 AM
Jeez I'm sorry man. There's this post see? Asks about Wado, so, seeing as I trained Wado and all, I figured I'd give some information.
feedback
08-23-2004, 03:41 AM
No worries, manditory first post hazing. :p
Kaitain
08-23-2004, 03:41 AM
I figured :)
ICY
08-23-2004, 04:13 AM
I've seen some Wado demostrations...and sparred with a guy who did Wado, and I wasn't impressed AT ALL...he did hurt me WHEN he hit me...but that only happened twice before I realized the silliness of what he was doing. Now, I don't know how his training differed from yours...but it seemed that the focus was to hit once, real hard...but not follow through with more attacks...it's like he expected to halt my attack with his one strike. After I figured that out, I just rushed him and threw punches faster than he could block them, clinched, went down, submitted him...repeatedly.
Obviously there will be some schools that are good and some that are bad...however in judging which type of Karate is best in general, I choose Kyokushin because it is tested all the time in competition, full contact. Info on it's offshoots can be found here:
http://www.australiankyokushin.com/flavours.shtml
(I found this site in a Google search)
Anyway...the key to any style being worth its salt IMO is sparring and competition, constant reminders of what really works and doesn't in the closest approximation of an actual fight that can be engaged in safely.
Obviously there will be some schools that are good and some that are bad...however in judging which type of Karate is best in general, I choose Kyokushin because it is tested all the time in competition, full contact. Info on it's offshoots can be found here:
http://www.australiankyokushin.com/flavours.shtml
(I found this site in a Google search)
Anyway...the key to any style being worth its salt IMO is sparring and competition, constant reminders of what really works and doesn't in the closest approximation of an actual fight that can be engaged in safely.
feedback
08-23-2004, 04:23 AM
As far as I know that's the principle behind most Karate styles, hit once with great power in a single decisive strike.
ICY
08-23-2004, 04:35 AM
That may be true...but as witnessed in KK, you need to be prepared for what happens when that doesn't work the first time.
Kaitain
08-23-2004, 04:41 AM
I don't rate Wado on it's own as a system for fighting - the reason I stayed was for the other elements that we were incorporating and the attributes that I built overall. There are no defences to being taken down in Wado (as far as I could see) other than the standard "I'll just hit him on the way in" balls - hence I started BJJ.
If everyone trained for the same reasons/goals it'd be pretty dull. If you want to know how to fight then Kyokushin seems pretty good to me. I just don't fancy getting that bashed up anymore :)
If everyone trained for the same reasons/goals it'd be pretty dull. If you want to know how to fight then Kyokushin seems pretty good to me. I just don't fancy getting that bashed up anymore :)
ICY
08-23-2004, 04:42 AM
I like this from the rules of competition in Daido Juku, hehe:
"If the difference in Physical Index (height in cm plus weight in kg) is 20 or more, both competitors may kick to the groin. If the difference is 30 or more, attacks to the groin with a fist or open hand are allowed. Regardless, a groin protector must be worn."
"If the difference in Physical Index (height in cm plus weight in kg) is 20 or more, both competitors may kick to the groin. If the difference is 30 or more, attacks to the groin with a fist or open hand are allowed. Regardless, a groin protector must be worn."
WhiteShark
08-23-2004, 06:31 AM
Shidokon is the BEST karate! :)
It includes grappling and kickboxing(MT) and is a descendant of Kyokushin.
It includes grappling and kickboxing(MT) and is a descendant of Kyokushin.
NSLightsOut
08-23-2004, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Hannibal
Feedback I don't know about you, but taking mind altering drugs while doing martial arts training is never a good idea. SAY NO TO DRUGS !!!!
Yet again, AI unit 'Hannibal' fails the Turing test.
To it's programmers: Better luck next time, guys. Maybe a little less regurgitation of trite, overused phrases may be in order for Hannibal v. 2.1.4.5
Feedback I don't know about you, but taking mind altering drugs while doing martial arts training is never a good idea. SAY NO TO DRUGS !!!!
Yet again, AI unit 'Hannibal' fails the Turing test.
To it's programmers: Better luck next time, guys. Maybe a little less regurgitation of trite, overused phrases may be in order for Hannibal v. 2.1.4.5
Ronin
08-23-2004, 07:58 AM
Forget the stye, it's all about the school.
Locu5
08-23-2004, 08:27 AM
forget the school, find a solid instructor
The best karate style ?
|
vBulletin® v3.8.1, Copyright ©2000-2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.  |
