Ignorant

08-20-2004, 09:39 PM

seeing as though i actually practice the sport of bjj and dont know this ....get your laughs out now......but, did rickson gracie "ever" actually lose a fight? mario yamasaki told me he had 500 wins and 0 losses.

Jo Vale Tudo

08-20-2004, 10:03 PM

His supposedly undefeated record consists of every mma/grappling match which includes tournament, in-school sparring, etc. according to Helio Gracie.

cafezinho

08-20-2004, 10:03 PM

Speed walking is an olympic event. Why isn't this? Brazilians could finally get some gold.

ICY

08-20-2004, 10:08 PM

Um...you do know Rickson is considered as full of crap on this point as anyone in the history of the universe, right? He has his nut-riders that will claim otherwise...but really, NEVER defeated in SPARRING!? WTF is that?

PizDoff

08-21-2004, 01:47 AM

Maybe he was really dedicated doing his forms and the skills transfered over?

Fearless

08-21-2004, 01:50 AM

masters of old could take him.

Phrost

08-21-2004, 01:52 AM

Sherdog's record is more accurate.

He lost a Sambo match by Ippon too, I believe.

Mox_Mox

08-21-2004, 02:26 AM

Yeah I always heard he lost once in a Sambo tourney.

SLJ

08-23-2004, 03:57 AM

I would guess most of them came from BJJ tournies, which I can believe. It is a tad misleading calling it a "Fight" Record though.

Matsufubu

08-23-2004, 07:51 AM

As far as the Sambo tournament is concerned: didn't Rickson claim he only lost because he didn't know the rules? Something about how long his shoulders were allowed to touch the mat for? Therefore it wasn't a 'real' loss.

SLJ

08-23-2004, 08:00 AM

Yer, I think it was just an Ippon.

It's a dumb rule, but he shouldn't have agreed to it so it's certainly a loss.

shironinja

08-23-2004, 12:02 PM

"Poor is the student who does not surpass his master" - Leonardo Da Vinci
"Poor is the master whose student does not surpass him" - Zopa Gyatso

Ronin

08-23-2004, 12:04 PM

Rickson's white tights make his buttocks look sublime.

ok im an idiot