Why escrima?

[Lone Swordsman]

Seems to be pretty popular at the same places that teach arts like Muay Thai or BJJ. Why is this? Does it really have practical value for, say, fighting with knives and batons?

[Honey Badger]

Yes. If you want to train to defend a blade then you must train to use a blade.

The whole idea of Kali/Arnis/Escrima is that techniques are pretty much the same whether you have a knife, a sword, a stick, or are empty handed. Techniques can be done with many "non-weapon" objects such as maglites, car antennae, or candlesticks.

I personally think it mixes well with MT because it utilizes a lot of the same kicking mechanics, although not as exaggerated, and the kicks stay low, targeting the inner leg at the knee area and going right to an off-balancing/sweep or a knee manipulation.

But I'm biased.

[Pandinha]

Originally posted by HoneyBadger
Yes. If you want to train to defend a blade then you must train to use a blade.

The whole idea of Kali/Arnis/Escrima is that techniques are pretty much the same whether you have a knife, a sword, a stick, or are empty handed. Techniques can be done with many "non-weapon" objects such as maglites, car antennae, or candlesticks.

I personally think it mixes well with MT because it utilizes a lot of the same kicking mechanics, although not as exaggerated, and the kicks stay low, targeting the inner leg at the knee area and going right to an off-balancing/sweep or a knee manipulation.

But I'm biased.

Possibly one of the best descriptions I have ever seen.

[Lone Swordsman]

So is there such a thing as full-contact escrima sparring?

[Kiozz]

Originally posted by Lone Swordsman
So is there such a thing as full-contact escrima sparring?

www.dogbrothers.com

[Honey Badger]

You work your way up to full contact. My instructor has us fight full contact with foam padded pvc wrapped in duct tape. We also do "slashing contact" with light skinny sticks. I personally haven't gone full-contact-no-gear but I'm trying to work up the courage (and the skill).

Edit for corrections to grammar.

[Kuya]

You can blame Dan Inosanto ;)

[SamHarber]

Originally posted by Kiozz
Originally posted by Lone Swordsman
So is there such a thing as full-contact escrima sparring?


www.dogbrothers.com
Dog brothers is not the only way of going full contact.
My club decided to go the SBG/Aliveness route, so when we go full contact its with headgear, gloves and usually not much else (elbow, knees and groin protection were always popular though).

[PizDoff]

1. Screamer is rad.
2. Ottawa sucks.
3. What HoneyBadger said.
4. Why? Because we like to nutride Thai arts.

[Meex]

When I was learning escrima, the upper level crew (instructors) would go full contact, full speed. When evenly matched, it was the awesomest sh*t I've ever seen, before or since. Lots of groups sparring full-contact, now. Many have purpose, some are just nuts.

`~/

[Lone Swordsman]

You're in Canada, PD? Where do you do kickboxing?

[The Crack Taoist]

IS there such a thing as full contact escrima?

Well let's put it this way.

If you train a LARGO MANO style of arnis/escrima as opposed to a Corto
style you can bang out MUCH harder cause you aren't inside all the damn
time taking insane amounts of punishment.

For simple-as-shit Largo systems like the one I train we have two core
practices....

Full contact sparring with as little armour as you have the balls for...

AND

Dos miles teros (2000 cuts, every fucking day!).

Yes Virginia There is a Santa Kali!

[Honey Badger]

Most of the fighting will be at Largo Mano range if you have two skilled eskrimadors because they're going to hit and move and not try to get to Corto if it's not there. If you try to force your way in you get destroyed.

[JKDChick]

May I point out that true full contact FMA ends in DEATH?

They're MARTIAL arts, they're lethal. In the same way the FULL CONTACT BJJ would end in broken joints and limbs.

[Solid]

Does anyone know any good kali/kife instructors in beautiful Vancouver? Yes, I realise asking about knife training automatically makes me look like a weirdo, thanks.

[The Crack Taoist]

Solid,
No not a weirdo. It makes you look like a realist. My suggestion, get thy ass over to Eskrima
Digest, look in the teacher's directory and ask on the list. Lots of teachers in BC , you will have
your choice.

Honey,
You'd be amazed then, cause I meet many escrimadors (including one Doces Pares teacher
on this deployment) who preach "never back up, never give ground".
Weird but true... my theory of skilled weapons combat includes the ability to use largo
range even if you are some ancient filipino badass who can fight in corto at will.
I can't fight in corto at will and I don't intend to try.

JKDC,
Full contact between skilled opponents with RATTAN ends in death. Sorry but you'll
have to back that up. Now kamagong or bolos sure...
But who the fuck fights full on with ironwood sticks and no armour?
I sure don't, and I'm a rabid SOB when it comes to FMA.