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Ronin
08-04-2004, 10:44 AM
Ok, how about a list of some of the principles of the martial arts that we subscribe/practice/advocate.

Myself:
Hard contact bare knuckle training.
Full contact sparring.
"aliveness".
"blind spot" positioning for striking.
"Offensive mindset".
All around combat ( striking,grappling,weapons).

Gentlemen and ladies?

Onecardshort
08-04-2004, 10:50 AM
Strong ironing technique for hakama
operatic lessons to aid in screaming
bottox injections to prevent pain showing in seiza
fat taken off someone else and injected into gut to increase hara

Chuan
08-04-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by ronin69
Ok, how about a list of some of the principles of the martial arts that we subscribe/practice/advocate.

Myself:
Hard contact bare knuckle training.
Full contact sparring.
"aliveness".
"blind spot" positioning for striking.
"Offensive mindset".
All around combat ( striking,grappling,weapons).

Gentlemen and ladies?

Pretty good set right there. Now if a training group could be found.

Ronin
08-04-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Onecardshort
Strong ironing technique for hakama
operatic lessons to aid in screaming
bottox injections to prevent pain showing in seiza
fat taken off someone else and injected into gut to increase hara

Hard to argue with any of that.

Ronin
08-04-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Chuan
Pretty good set right there. Now if a training group could be found.

That is what throwdowns are for.

MaverickZ
08-04-2004, 10:54 AM
-doing what works for me rather than what works for others
-covering all holes in my training
-working what i suck at the most (doing 100 spin back kicks in a row fucking sucks by the way)
-taking care of my martial brothers and sisters (sounds corny i know), in that i try to tell them all i know and all that has helped me along the way
-not looking for shortcuts to perfection, they never work anyway

Chuan
08-04-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by ronin69
That is what throwdowns are for.


Been to one. Doesn't help in the time between however.

Chupacabra
08-04-2004, 11:20 AM
my principles:

1. don't be a dick
2. end fights as quickly as possible (proactive instead of reactive)
3. train hard
4. if you don't understand, ask questions

The_Ghost
08-04-2004, 11:28 AM
1. Fuck pain and fight anyways
2. Train harder then you fight
3. Never back down, but always know your enemy first
4. Look weak in gym/dojo, be a steel wall in the ring
5. Focus on what your doing and not whose watching.
6. Win...everytime...always.

punchingdummy
08-04-2004, 12:20 PM
1. crawl-walk-run-sprint
2. set stretch goals in training (as in challenging, not how deep of a split I can hold)
3. stay healthy
4. maintain a consistent investment in training; but variety in the drills & techniques
5. always learn something or improve a little bit EVERY training session
6. when appropriate...tap into the warrior mindset!

WingChun Lawyer
08-04-2004, 01:21 PM
Wear clean underwear.

Always protect the fucking centerline, stupid. But watch out from roundpunches coming from the blindspots.

Your base is never strong enough. Work on it.

Footwork is the key to survival.

Improve a bit every class.

ImAlrdyNum
08-04-2004, 03:01 PM
-Throwing one black belt for ippon at judo practice dost not make thou Olympic champion
-Know that that same black belt will come back and twist you into a pretzel 20 times in 5 minutes after you throw him
-There is always someone better than you, chances are there are always many more people better than you
-No matter how much MA training you have, know that your girlfriend still thinks your a dork and a big wussy and couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag.

Note to self: Pimp slap girlfriend when you get home to teach her who's she's messing with!

SamHarber
08-04-2004, 03:34 PM
1) Accept its going to hurt
2) avoid and redirect
3) take the back/blind side
4) dont be so fucking stupid
5) actually listen to what your coach/instructor says
6) ask questions
7) dont take the piss.

NHB_Ben
08-04-2004, 04:05 PM
1) Be responsible for your own training
2) Be well-rounded
3) Foster a productive training environment
4) Help (or train with) anyone who asks regardless of skill, size, gender or age

grond
08-04-2004, 04:33 PM
I haven't put much time into them, but these could be called principles of wing chun. -grond

wingchun.org
Wing Chun Kuen Kuit
Recorded by Augustine Fong
Introduction by Curt James

Wing Chun Kuen Kuit are "Words of Wisdom" which capture in poetic terms the finer attributes of Wing Chun Kung Fu. "Kuen Kuit" is Cantonese for "martial sayings" or "fighting songs." Chinese martial arts employ Kuen Kuit as concise, rhythmic verses which present a method or philosophy of a style. Even among competing Wing Chun traditions, many sayings are recognized and shared. One significant proverb cites, "Loy Lau Hoi Sung, Lut Sau Jik Chung." This means: "Retain what's coming in; Send off what's retreating; Rush in upon loss of hand contact." Regardless of the Wing Chun tradition, this advice bridges many differences and defines one of the most important strategies of the art.

Wing Chun proverbs have been reaching the public for years thanks to the efforts of masters Moy Yat, Wang Kiu, sifu Augustine Fong and others. The original Wing Chun Kuen Kuit are believed to decend from an ancient, oral tradition, and reportedly were connected to southern Chinese secret societies of the nineteenth century. Moy Yat wrote, "It was during the Ch'ing dynasty that many of the proverbs were part of secret codes and rituals developed by the rebels dedicated to overthrowing the Manchus." Over the passing years, unrelated or inapplicable sayings were eventually discarded, the remaining few are described as being "truly intrinsic" to Wing Chun Kung Fu.2

"Wing Chun Chuen Jing Tung" is an important proverb usually displayed in the traditional Wing Chun school. This refers to the genuineness of the martial art and reads, "Wing Chun authentically passing down." This means passing on the true system of Wing Chun "unchanged by your own ideas."3 Other well known proverbs cite: Kuen Yau Sum Faat (The punch starts from the heart); Ying Da Juck Da, But Ying Da, But Ho Da ... (Strike when you should, Do not strike when you should not ...); Chew Ying Joi Ying (Face toward and chase the opponent); Chum Jong Sau Jone (Sink the elbow, protect the center)4; Guan Mo Leung Heung (The staff doesn't make two sounds), etc.


-following is a portion of the kuen kuit. -grond

Maxims of Wing Chun

* Retain what comes in, send off what retreats. Rush in on loss of hand contact.
* Do not be lax when your opponent is not advancing.
* Once your opponent moves, his center of gravity changes.
* Make the first move to have control. Attack according to timing.
* Timing is achieved through practice.
* A strong attitude and posture gives an advantage over your opponent.
* Being alert and adapting to the situation allows maximum results for minimum effort.
* The body follows the movement of the hands. The waist and the stance move together.
* Complement the hands with posture to make good use of the centerline.
* The eyes and the mind travel together, paying attention to leading edge of attack.
* Charge into the opponent. Execute three moves together.
* Strike any presented posture if it is there. Otherwise strike where you see motion. Beware of sneak attacks, leakage attacks and invisible centerline attacks.
* Soft and relaxed strength will put your opponent in jeopardy.
* Coordinate the hands and feet. Movement is together.
* Do not take risks and you will always connect to the target.
* Have confidence and your calmness will dominate the situation.
* Occupy the inner gate to strike deep into the defense.
* To win in an instant is a superior achievement.
* The Yin Yang principle should be thoroughly understood.
* The theory of Wing Chun has no limit in it applications.
* Be humble to request your teacher for guidance.
* Understand the principles for your training.
* Upon achieving the highest level of proficiency, the application of techniques will vary according to the opponent.

NHB_Ben
08-04-2004, 04:42 PM
I can't believe you followed my sweet ass post with that garbage.

Principles you subscribe to.


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